On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 04:00:38PM +0200, Ond??ej Fiala wrote:
> I tried opening the link in question on three different occasions and it 
> required me to log in on all of them, which is why I asked for the summary.
> 
> I agree that linking to a resource that does not (even occasionally) require 
> login should be preferred. People looking to Qubes for security often do so 
> to have a secure environment for privacy-enhancing tools such as Tor, so it's 
> reasonable to expect that a lot of them don't have Google account.On Sep 19, 
> 2020 14:53, unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 09:39:30PM +0200, Ond??ej Fiala wrote: 
> > > Please read more carefully next time -- "Since I don't have Google 
> > > account 
> > > which seems to be required to view the initial discussion (*as linked in 
> > > the 
> > > first post of the thread*)". The first post says "continuing from 
> > > discussion 
> > > at [link to Google groups]" without explaining anything... 
> > > 
> >
> > It really isn't true that you need a google account to read google 
> > groups. 
> > I connect over Tor, and rarely use groups- much prefer to use the mail 
> > archive ( and you could easily have done this instead of posting snitty 
> > comments). On the rare occasions that I *have to* use google groups, 
> > other than enabling jscript, I connect just fine. 
> > I realise that other users have reported a log in requirement - all I'm 
> > saying is that it isn't universally applied. 
> >
> > For the record, google groups for qubes-users is available at: 
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-users@googlegroups.com/ 
> > and this provides a searchable archive 
> >
> > It would be desirable if every one linked to the mail archive - is there 
> > **any** chance that this could become the default? 
> > (Also, the documentation should do this by default too.) 

Did you do this from the same qube at the same IP address? It's just not
my experience using variety of qubes under Tor. If I get a login, I just
fire up another qube and try again.

mail-archive.com undoubtedly helps, and I think it should be the default
reference in the docs. I believe that these lists are now echoed to the
Forum - perhaps "will be echoed" - I'm not sure of that: I mean I'm not
sure of the benefit.

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