Dan Check wrote:

Hi,

I'm running into terrible system clock problems with a Sun Fire X2100 running a Debian etch kernel (2.6.12-1-amd64-k8-smp #1 SMP Wed Sep 28 02:57:49 CEST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux). The system clock falls out of sync really aggressively -- at a rate of a couple of minutes every hour. Any help on this would be hugely appreciated.

NTP doesn't work at all unless I add the burst and iburst options to the servers, and then it seems to sync periodically, but it doesn't do the gentle time correction that I've come to know and love from ntp. Is this because my system clock is naturally too far out to lunch? Is there a different way that I can get it to a baseline of acceptable performance, and would that help NTP to do its job?

I've currently got ntp requests going out over both eth1 and eth0, onto the internet and onto a local subnet, so I don't think network problems are a root cause here.

Here's some ntpq output (notice the massive jitter):

cairo:~# ntpq -p
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ======================================================================== ====== eddie.psaux.com 69.25.96.13 2 u 41 64 377 126.531 -178278 1469.35 snm.sd.dreamhos 164.67.62.194 2 u 1 64 377 76.850 -174947 5826.25 dns.ziandra.net 192.43.244.18 2 u 1 64 377 146.722 -187680 9415.62 69.38.165.70 .STEP. 16 u - 1024 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 69.38.165.70 17.254.0.27 3 u 2 64 377 32.126 -174999 8972.49 cudns.cit.corne 192.43.244.18 2 u 2 64 377 68.414 -188343 9871.54 hickory.cc.colu 18.145.0.30 2 u 2 64 377 15.159 -176542 7009.97 192.168.1.202 216.165.129.244 2 u 1 64 377 0.089 -176454 7924.23

And here are the logs... notice the frequent large syncs... And it gives me a "kernel time sync disabled" but never says "kernel time sync enabled" after that, which is the behavior that I'm used to...

Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:4.2.0a+stable-2-r Fri Feb 4 19:20:53 CET 2005 (1)
Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: precision = 1.000 usec
Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: Listening on interface wildcard, ::#123
Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: Listening on interface lo, XXXXXX#123
Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: Listening on interface eth0, XXXXXXXX#123 Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: Listening on interface eth1, XXXXXXXX#123
Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: kernel time sync status 0040
Dec 19 14:28:41 cairo ntpd[24714]: frequency initialized 0.000 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift Dec 19 14:29:19 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.33.216.11, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:29:19 cairo ntpd[24714]: time reset -53.294103 s
Dec 19 14:29:19 cairo ntpd[24714]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
Dec 19 14:32:46 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 69.38.165.70, stratum 3 Dec 19 14:33:37 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 128.59.59.177, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:33:39 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:33:50 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 69.38.165.70, stratum 3 Dec 19 14:33:52 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 128.59.59.177, stratum 2 Dec 19 14:34:42 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 69.38.165.70, stratum 3 Dec 19 14:34:42 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.92.250.40, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:34:44 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:34:57 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.92.250.40, stratum 2 Dec 19 14:35:47 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.33.216.11, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:35:52 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:37:17 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.33.216.11, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:38:07 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:40:27 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2 Dec 19 14:41:16 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.33.216.11, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:41:21 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:41:30 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:42:24 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:42:43 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 128.59.59.177, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:42:43 cairo ntpd[24714]: time reset -190.225502 s
Dec 19 14:43:58 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:44:54 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:52:49 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.33.216.11, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:52:53 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:54:44 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 128.59.59.177, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:54:45 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:54:57 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.92.250.40, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:55:45 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 14:55:17 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:55:17 cairo ntpd[24714]: time reset -175.662019 s
Dec 19 14:56:32 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2 Dec 19 14:57:25 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 66.33.216.11, stratum 2 Dec 19 14:57:25 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 206.111.81.7, stratum 2
Dec 19 14:57:27 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 15:03:03 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 69.38.165.70, stratum 3
Dec 19 15:03:05 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 15:03:08 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 128.59.59.177, stratum 2 Dec 19 15:03:59 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2
Dec 19 15:04:03 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable
Dec 19 15:06:28 cairo ntpd[24714]: synchronized to 132.236.56.250, stratum 2
Dec 19 15:07:19 cairo ntpd[24714]: no servers reachable


Thanks,
Dan
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My first guess would be that your local clock has a frequency error in excess of 512 parts per million. 500 PPM translates to about 43 seconds per day. NTPcan not and will not work until you get that fixed. I also find both the "clock hopping" and the "no servers reachable" messages a little disturbing.
The no servers reachable suggests that you have network problems somewhere.

My second guess would be that you are listening to some bad servers which might account for the clock hopping.

How well, or how badly, does the system keep time when ntpd is not running?

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