In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Using SSL keeps clear-text passwords off the wire.

Given that, for most of the network, doing an OSI layer 1 passive tap
requires specialist hardware (and in some cases may be almost impossible),
whereas doing a layer 4 active tap can be done with standard hardware
and slightly tweaked software, that sounds like a false sense of
security to me.  (In fact, with a little bit of social engineering,
of the phishing variety, the layer 4 tap can be done on a standard PC
anywhere in the world.)

Without authentication, there is nothing preventing a layer 4 upwards
active tap, by anyone who can gain physical access anywhere on the path,
or can social engineer you.

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