John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

Ronan Flood wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ackermann N8UR) wrote:


After I finish some reconfiguration, I'll have the embarrassment of riches of having five stratum one servers, each driven by an independent refclock (two GPSDO, one WWVB, and two Cesium).



Good grief!  What Cesium and how do they interface to your servers?


Old HP 5061As with the digital clock option; they provide a 1pps output to use with the ATOM driver.

Is there a preferred configuration that would let the downstream box have the benefit of the multiple stratum 1s, without jumping around?



Pick "the best" ?

 server x.x.x.x prefer


That's the easy answer, assuming I know which one is "best". :-)

I guess my question may go to the fundamentals of ntp: can an NTP server ever do better than any of the individual servers it sees? In other words, does the algorithm blend the offset/jitter/delay information it has to generate a concept of time based on not just one, but the ensemble (or at least the survivors of the sanity checks), of the available servers? If so, how best to configure that?

John
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John,

Dave would probably refer you to the slide show! I probably should too but I'll try to tackle this anyway. Ntpd selects the "best" synchronization source. The selected synchronization source is given great "weight" in the result but the other acceptable servers (marked with a "+" in the ntpq banner also have an influence.

I've found clock hopping to be a problem with internet servers. I have yet to see any two internet servers deliver anything resembling the same time to my site. The differences may be only a millisecond or two but a client hopping between sources that different is never going to settle down and track any one source accurately.

To the extent that your stratum 1 servers differ from each other in absolute time "as delivered to the client" and in stability, you will have problems with your client.

I'm inclined to suspect that your WWVB reflock will not look anywhere near as attractive to ntpd as your cesium clocks; the vagaries of LF radio propagation will probably introduce enough jitter that it will seldom, if ever, be selected.

You will be very dependent on the speed and latency of your local network; I'd be inclined to say that you'd be wasting your time with anything less than 100MB Full Duplex and switched.

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