Richard:

I just built the latest point release of NTP and it seems to have fixed my problem. What is really strange is the same script, same rc3.d setup and the old version had 2 ntpd processes running...now with the new version (no changes other than a recompile with the new source) fixed the problem. Someone responded to my post and stated that it was normal behavior to see 2 versions running...that one was for DNS lookup and would exit once it's job was complete. What struck me as odd was that in the past on single processor machines, I never noticed more than one ntpd running. It was only when I had moved over to a dual PIII box that I would see 2 ntpd's running. As I mentioned in my post, the PPID of one of the ntpd's was the initially started ntpd.

However, since I am now using the latest point release all seems better.

On a side note, I still see in /var/log/messages odd intertwined timings in logs. For instance executing this:

grep sshd /var/log/messages | grep Failed

yields this:

Oct 16 01:30:36 adminserver sshd[9271]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 49310 ssh2 Oct 15 21:30:41 adminserver sshd[9272]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 50927 ssh2 Oct 16 01:30:41 adminserver sshd[9273]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 50927 ssh2 Oct 15 21:30:46 adminserver sshd[9274]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 52044 ssh2 Oct 16 01:30:46 adminserver sshd[9276]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 52044 ssh2 Oct 15 21:30:52 adminserver sshd[9277]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 54651 ssh2 Oct 16 01:30:52 adminserver sshd[9278]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 54651 ssh2 Oct 15 21:31:00 adminserver sshd[9279]: Failed password for invalid user tester from 210.17.215.224 port 56614 ssh2

Note the timestamps... So, this started me down the whole "I have 2 ntpd's running" issue. It felt like maybe one was trying set the date incorrectly...

Thanks for your response!

Scot

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
Scot P. Floess wrote:
I didn't readily find an answer to this problem...

I note when I start ntp as an init script running Fedora Core 5 on a dual PIII 450 Mhz box, I see two ntpd processes running. By looking at the PID and PPID it appears one ntpd is starting the other. I note in /var/log/messages I will see logs with intermixed times. For instance, a log with time X followed by logs with X - some prior time...it's very odd...

If, on the command line, I stop ntpd both processes stop fine. By starting ntpd again...I note only one ntpd process running.

My question is: is this behavior normal on a dual processor box? Based on the odd timestamps in /var/log/messages - I would have to say only one ntpd should be running...it almost "feels" like the two ntpd's are fighting to set the system clock.

Thanks in advance!

Scot

Only one instance of ntpd is supposed to be running. Something about the way you are starting your system is starting two processes. The most likely cause is executing the ntpd startup script twice. If you add:
echo "Starting ntpd at `date`"
to the script that starts ntpd, you will see the message twice during startup if that is your problem. I can't imagine what else it might be so, if it is something else, please let us know.

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