Group,

With due humbleness and respect to both 'cnoyes2' (the original author) and 
Steve Kosteke---I would think he (cnoyes2) isn't concerned with whether the 
clocks are monotonic (whatever that is).

I understand and fully agree that unmanaged clocks, which are not 
sync'd to an authoritative time-source will drift, and it can get 
horrible and other bad things can happen.  Got that.

What seems to get lost, and admittedly not explained very well---hence 
my attempt here.... is that there are many situations these days where 
folks are developing, working, troubleshooting real-world problems in 
environments big and small that are deliberately isolated (and rightfully 
so)---and 
just don't have the luxury of an authoritative time-source  --  but just want 
time to 'work' and be sync'd.  They are not going to get an authoritative 
time-source.  They are not knowledgeable/experienced 
with ntp (raises my own hand high here).  They need meaningful technical advice 
(ideally from this community), broken down into layman's 
terms, on how to establish 'the best that can be possible' in a private 
environment knowing it will never get to have an authoritative 
time-source.

In other words---how can we broaden folks knowledge of ntp, in enjoyable ways, 
tell them first what they CAN do and solve their ntp problems along the way?

R,
-Joe Wulf
 Senior IA Engineer/ISSE
 ProSync Technology Group, LLC




----- Original Message ----
> From: Steve Kostecke <koste...@ntp.org>
> To: questions@lists.ntp.org
> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 2:56:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Quick sync between two computers not connected 
> to the internet
> 
> > On 2010-03-19, cnoyes2 <
> > href="mailto:cnoy...@gmail.com";>cnoy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to sync the time on 2 Windows XP computers that are not on
> > the internet and never will be. For testing purposes, they need to
> > have the same time. The time does not need to be accurate.
>
> You're not concerned about whether or not the clocks are stable or monotonic?
>
> Steve Kostecke

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