G8KBV wrote:
In article <82f3qcfg1...@mid.individual.net>, sn...@lordynet.org says...
Hi

Latest experiment is to attempt to make a backup PPS source and
I've now made a start with a watch xtal oscillator and divider
that can be synchronised by a PPS source when present (except
I've not yet wired up for synchronisation).

remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==============================================================================
+GPS_NMEA(0) .GPSb. 0 l 57 64 377 0.000 1.865 0.381 oPPS(0) .PPSb. 1 l - 16 377 0.000 -0.004 0.002 PPS(2) .OSCc. 1 l 10 16 377 0.000 1.859 0.006 -k6x400.home.lor 192.168.59.64 2 u 3 64 377 0.951 3.837 0.447 +me6000g.home.lo .MSFa. 1 u 29 64 377 0.905 3.190 0.451 -p4x2400c.home.l 192.168.59.64 2 u 34 64 377 0.832 3.078 0.343

PPS(2) was time1 fudged to get it < 2ms.

I can see there being problems already with full rotation of trim
cap giving about +/- 6 us/s variation and temperature changes
have already shown a minor problem (south facing window, very hot
day, rapidly going cold tonight). Of course putting the whole
oscillator module in a temperature controlled box is in the plan.

Earlier this afternoon I had trimmer set so that offset change
between poll periods was < +1us, but that started increasing and
change has now reversed direction with offset over last hour
having dropped from 1867us, steps at 6min intervals being:
   -31 -43 -54 -61 -59 -60 -58 -60 -59 -68 -75 -76us
ie total 0.63ms over last hour.

The temperature swings today have also has adverse effect on the
three peers shown that on a good day can all be < 500us.

Any hints/tips welcome, I'm also considering an oscillator using
an AT cut xtal but design for that is considerably more complex,
however it's then a possibility to convert the HF to be used as
system clock.

I also keep googling for rubidium sources but not found any
within my budget, cheapest I've found (new) starting at ukp 900.


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Have a laugh on me

MSFa the Conrad module is the small green pcb with blue terminal
block, 77.5kHz xtal replaced with 60kHz and using LW aerial from
Rapid.

http://www.lordynet.me.uk/pub/ntp/m0041359.jpg


32768Hz oscillator (cmos 4007 + watch xtal) and divider
(74HCT4060 + 74HCT74) for 2Hz, 1Hz and 0.5Hz out.

http://www.lordynet.me.uk/pub/ntp/m0041360.jpg


David

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