Hi,

I can't answer for Alan, but my belief is yes.  Client wifi stacks
sometimes also do some reordering(and introduce the corresponding latency),
so if we could design an indication that in-order delivery has no value, it
could be fairly widely applicable.

That being said, I don't know what the right mechanism is?  Would we need
something visible to a network or can we get away with a socket option that
propagates to the local 5G network or Wifi firmware when possible?

Ian

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:15 PM Das, Dibakar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Kirill, Alan,
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> I could not attend the call this week and wont be able to attend this side
> meeting either.
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> But I had a general question about the performance of all such QUIC based
> protocols over wireless. Typically, the 5G and WiFI MAC layers deliver
> frames in-order which sort of recreates the HOL blocking problem at lower
> layers. I would expect this to in turn prevent the QUIC protocol to achieve
> its full performance gains at least in some congested network scenarios.
> Considering that in-order delivery is made optional in 5G PDCP, I was
> wondering if there could be a value to have some signaling defined in the
> QUIC (or RUSH ?) protocol that would allow lower layers to make better
> decision about whether to enable/disable in-order delivery for certain
> streams.
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> I apologize in advance if this is not the right venue to ask questions.
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> Regards,
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> Dibakar
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> *From:* QUIC <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Alan Frindell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:42 AM
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]; QUIC WG <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> *Cc:* Kirill Pugin <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Reminder: Video Ingest over QUIC Side Meeting Friday 7/30
> 18:00 UTC
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> Video Ingest over QUIC Side Meeting Friday 7/30 18:00 UTC / 11 Pacific
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> Link to draft agenda and video conference details:
> https://github.com/afrind/draft-rush/blob/main/meeting-materials/agenda.2021.07.03.md
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> -Alan
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