From: Warren Kumari <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 1:00 PM To: Brian Trammell <[email protected]> Cc: MORTON JR., AL <[email protected]>; Gorry Fairhurst <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Paul Vixie <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; Mirja Kuehlewind <[email protected]>; Lucas Pardue <[email protected]>; QUIC WG <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OPS-DIR] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-quic-manageability-14
Hi Brian, Al, Mirja, et al, Just a quick note to say thank you to all for this conversation and working towards some sort of consensus. I personally think that the PRs that Brian has created are helpful, and are looking good. There is a definite, and ongoing tension between the operators' need to see into the traffic for management/filtering/malware protection/etc; and the users' needs for privacy - this tension makes these sorts of discussions somewhat fraught, and I'd like to thank everyone again for trying to see each other's viewpoints, and work towards text / a solution that we can all live with. While this compromise might not be perfect, is it good enough that we can all live with it? W [acm] WFM, thanks, Al On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 7:04 AM, Brian Trammell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Al, Lucas, all, I think I’ve distilled down this thread into two PRs: https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/pull/466<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/pull/466__;!!BhdT!ja5YmdO4uaBZJglvL3utBGoizA3beR66DhMXcTXFI3U9srTnu6td0NOfpRKI_PKDB6jYUaOgoBb1$> on “recommendation” language generally, and https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/pull/467<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/pull/467__;!!BhdT!ja5YmdO4uaBZJglvL3utBGoizA3beR66DhMXcTXFI3U9srTnu6td0NOfpRKI_PKDB6jYUSWzM0NT$> rephrasing recommendations not to switch on version into an analysis of the tradeoffs (thanks Lucas for your help with these!). Please have a look and let me know whether those resolve this discussion. Thanks, cheers, Brian
