> On May 20, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Martin Thomson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the feedback Scott.  I've added a few changes to 
> https://github.com/quicwg/quic-bit-grease/pull/26 which will be on top of the 
> ones in https://github.com/quicwg/quic-bit-grease/pull/25 (which was in 
> response to Russ).
> 
> On Fri, May 20, 2022, at 10:21, Scott Bradner via Datatracker wrote:
>> Since this document proposes a change in the way QUIC packets are created and
>> processed it would seem logical for this document be listed as updating RFC
>> 9000.  If this is the case then the document header and introduction need to 
>> be
>> changed.
> 
> I don't think that this is necessary.  This fits within QUIC's extension 
> model in that you don't need to read and understand this document in order to 
> correctly implement RFC 9000.  I know that the definition of "updates" is 
> contested, but that's the definition I've applied here.

seems to me that having "updated by" in the RFC index makes it more likely that 
an implementer will discover quic-bit-grease

the IETF has a long standing problem with implementors understating what RFCs 
are needed to be implemented when
implementing a protocol (TCP is a good example - RFC 7414 was done to provide a 
roadmap) - anything that helps
implementors know"what QUIC is" has to be a good idea

but, since bits are cheap, I do not understand the objection to making things 
clearer - i.e. the question is not "is this necessary" but
"is this useful"

Scott

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