Hi QUIC, Sharing this side meeting announcement; many of the updates for Happy Eyeballs v3 are concerned with updating the algorithm for QUIC, which is of relevance for this group!
Best, Tommy > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple....@dmarc.ietf.org> > Subject: [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 > Date: July 12, 2024 at 3:21:55 PM PDT > To: alldispa...@ietf.org > Cc: v6...@ietf.org, draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs...@ietf.org > > At IETF 118 and 119, we shared our work on updating the Happy Eyeballs RFCs > with draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-v3 [1]. Specifically at IETF 119, we > presented at the ALLDISPATCH session, and got the feedback to consider a new > short-lived working group [2]. > > The authors have worked on a proposed charter for the HAPPY WG (Heuristics > and Algorithms to Prioritize Protocol deploYment), and we’ve scheduled some > side meeting time at IETF 120 to discuss and get feedback. > > https://wiki.ietf.org/en/meeting/120/sidemeetings > When: 16:30-17:30 Pacific Time > Where: Prince of Wales / Oxford > > The initial text we’d be proposing for a charter can be found here: > https://github.com/tfpauly/draft-happy-eyeballs-v3/blob/main/charter.md > > Feel free to also reply to this email, or file issues [3]! > > Best, > Tommy, David, Nidhi, & Kenichi > > [1] > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-v3-01.html > [2] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/minutes-119-alldispatch-202403172230-00 > [3] > https://github.com/tfpauly/draft-happy-eyeballs-v3/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Acharter > >> On Jan 23, 2024, at 3:51 PM, Tommy Pauly <tpa...@apple.com> wrote: >> >> Hi ALLDISPATCH, >> >> We’d like to propose a draft to be dispatched at IETF 119. This draft was >> discussed in a couple different working groups (V6OPS and TSVWG) at IETF >> 118. One of the main points of discussion within those groups was the >> question of which working group would be most appropriate to take on the >> draft. >> >> The draft is "Happy Eyeballs Version 3", which is an update to RFC 8305, >> which was Version 2. For those not familiar with Happy Eyeballs, it’s the >> name for the algorithm network clients use to create multiple connection >> attempts in parallel, with a small delay between attempts, for servers that >> are reachable on multiple IP addresses. This technique allows clients to >> have preferences for specific protocols or features, such as IPv6, while >> still making a user’s “eyeballs” happy in cases where there may be >> misconfigurations on networks or servers that cause the preferred protocols >> to fail or be slow. This work was originally developed in v6ops, and was >> primarily focused on handling the selection of IPv6 vs IPv4 options. >> >> In the years since RFC 8305 was published, there have been numerous changes >> to the protocol ecosystem that required a refresh on the document. Some of >> the changes include: >> - SVCB/HTTPS records (RFC 9460), which provide additional ways to get >> address hints, add priority between A/AAAA answers, indicate supported >> ALPNs, and indicate support for TLS encrypted client hello >> - Growing support for QUIC (RFC 9000); previously, Happy Eyeballs was >> defined in terms of TCP connections, and needs to have some text adaptation >> - New techniques for supporting v6-only networks and address synthesis >> >> While the algorithm overall still focuses on selection of IP addresses and >> preferred address families, some of the new considerations (around transport >> protocol selection, ALPN selection, and preferences due to TLS encrypted >> client hello) cause the scope to potentially grow beyond the core expertise >> of V6OPS. Hence, we’d like to figure out where this work should go. >> >> The draft can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-v3/ >> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-v3-00.html >> >> Slides from IETF 118 can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/materials/slides-118-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-v3-00 >> >> Thanks, >> Tommy (& co-authors) > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- v6...@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-le...@ietf.org
