Ron, I apologize for wrongly blaming you.
My intent is not to assign blame but emphasize the significant impact these types of changes can have on paying customers. It is simply unacceptable to implement this significant change without taking into consideration the impact to your customers. I will still ask Gary to implement the Dow Jones structure. best regards, Tom --- In [email protected], "Ron Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom, > > > > I had very little to do with the changing of the groups; I made some > suggestions because they were going to be changed anyway, and that was it. > > > > I am an HGS user, and do not control the Industry Groups, nor do I own HGS > software, or the Industry Monitor groups. Blame me if you like, but you and > others operate on assumption rather than fact. > > > > If Gary were to standardize on the Dow Jones Industry structure, get ready > to dig a lot deeper for the use of their groups. There is no > standardization in the group structure because all vendors copyright their > group structure and want to be paid for their use because it is a lot of > work to build and maintain groups. > > > > In the past, several vendors tried to use IBD's group structure without > licensing them, including Telescan and AIQ, but both were threatened with > lawsuits and withdrew their groups. For those of you who want the IBD group > structure, you are going to need to subscribe to Daily Graphs to get them. > > > > From the tone of your email, you were positive this was my decision to > change the group structure, but I can assure you it was not. > > > > Ron Brown > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:quotes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of trb0428 > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: INDUSTRY GROUP Re: [quotes-plus] Digest Number 2431 > > > > Gary, > > I too now have significant work to re-do across all of my AmiBroker > indicators and scripts due to this change. I completely agree with > Joe and many others that QP's data integrity should not be controlledT > by the thoughts of one individual , in this case Ron Brown, but > rather should be aligned to an industry standard for purposes of > consistency and reliability. As a data vendor surely you must agree > that these are paramount considerations. May I strongly suggest the > Dow Jones Industry structure. This is widely accepted across the > financial world as one of the best systems of catagorizing individual > stocks into industries/sectors. It is standardized, stable and > consistent and not subject to the whims of any single individual who > can bring significant pain and suffering to your customer base > without so much as an advance notice. > > Before I begin the task of re-writing much of my software, you > mentioned in a previous post that you have access to industry groups > from a couple of other sources (industry standard groups) and that > you would include them if there is enough interest. Can you please do > so....as I am not willing to commit more time and energy into the > current data structure if it remains changeable without even the > courtesy of advance notification. > > Looking forward to your positive response. > > Best regards, > Tom > > --- In quotes-plus@ <mailto:quotes-plus%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, > "Joe Landry" <jelandry@> wrote: > > > > Discussion of Quotes Plus SoftwareHello Gary - you wrote - > > > > When you download the Industry Groups this weekend, you will see > that ther are now 149 groups, instead of the previous 198 groups. > Here is Ron's message describing the changes: > > > > This blows a hole through all my work with Industry and Sector > Groups and as Mr. Jones mentioned on > > the HGS board, it means hours of remapping and ripples completely > through the Amibroker software that > > I've developed. > > > > I'd like to recommend that you choose an industry/sector mapping > that is standard with the industry and separate from > > Ron Browns designs, unless of course you only want to meet the HGS > users requirements. I would hope that's not the > > case and that you would continue to support Amibroker users who > depend on you for data. > > > > Please let me know if there's a work around this change outside > of "NOT DOWNLOADING" the data, or a way > > of substituting one of the standard industry mapping. > > > > Best regards > > Joe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: quotes-plus@ <mailto:quotes-plus%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > > To: quotes-plus@ <mailto:quotes-plus%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:34 AM > > Subject: [quotes-plus] Digest Number 2431 > > > > > > Discussion of Quotes Plus Software > > Messages In This Digest (4 Messages) > > 1. Re: what is the TTM EPS for ticker ACAS? From: gary > > 2a. Re: !TRN-N in error? From: gary > > 2b. !TRN-N in error? From: gesa > > 3. Industry groups From: gary > > View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages > > 1. Re: what is the TTM EPS for ticker ACAS? > > Posted by: "gary" gary@ garylyb > > Sun Mar 4, 2007 4:29 am (PST) > > > > I've asked Reuters to clarify the numbers for me > > > > Best regards, > > > > Gary Lyben > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: investor0329 > > To: quotes-plus@ <mailto:quotes-plus%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:40 AM > > Subject: [quotes-plus] what is the TTM EPS for ticker ACAS? > > > > TTM EPS is twelve month trailing earnings per share > > > > According to QP data it is $3.11 > > > > According to Yahoo, it is $6.55 > > > > Which is it? If QP is right, than ACAS is paying more in > dividends > > than it earned. If Yahoo is right, then ACAS is doing great. > Chat > > board at Yahoo says ACAS is doing great because of the low > dividend > > payout ratio which is dividends payed divided by TTM EPS. > > > > Am I reading the above numbers correctly? > > > > TTM EPS has a specific definition, does it not?..no room for > different > > definitions, right? > > > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web > post > > Messages in this topic (2) > > 2a. Re: !TRN-N in error? > > Posted by: "gary" gary@ garylyb > > Sun Mar 4, 2007 4:30 am (PST) > > > > The trin calculation is: > > TRIN = (# of advancing issues/# of declining issues)/(volume of > advancing issues/volume of declining issues) > > For the NYSE, on 2-27, the numbers are: ( 456 / 2867 ) / (449 / > 41820 ) = 14.18 > > > > The declining volume absolutely swamped the advancing volume, I > don't eve remember it being that one sided. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Gary Lyben > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ges > > To: quotes-plus@ <mailto:quotes-plus%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:17 PM > > Subject: [quotes-plus] !TRN-N in error? > > > > I know 2/27 was a big down day, but still... !TRN-N seems to be > way out > > of whack...much too high. !TRN-Q and !TRN-A look right, but > not !TRN- > > N. Can you please check this out and correct? > > > > Thanks, > > > > ges > > > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web > post > > Messages in this topic (3) > > 2b. !TRN-N in error? > > Posted by: "gesa" gesa@ gesges > > Sun Mar 4, 2007 7:51 pm (PST) > > Well, I heard back from Gary and it looks like the !TRN-N spike > is NOT an error. All I can say is... WOW! > > > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web > post > > Messages in this topic (3) > > 3. Industry groups > > Posted by: "gary" gary@ garylyb > > Sun Mar 4, 2007 4:30 am (PST) > > Hello - > > > > When you download the Industry Groups this weekend, you will > see that ther are now 149 groups, instead of the previous 198 groups. > Here is Ron's message describing the changes: > > > > When you download today, you will find that the group and > sector structure of HGSI has changed. We consolidated some very small > groups into larger groups to give us a total of 150 Industry Monitor > groups rather than 193. Also, the sectors have been reduced from 12 > to 10. The new sector structure is on top, and the old is on the > bottom. > > > > I will be out of town until later this after noon, but when I > return, I will record my weekly report and show you how to download > and update my User Groups. I will cover all of this plus the market > situation. > > > > Ron > > > > Ron Brown > > Ron@ > > www.highgrowthstock.com > > > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web > post > > Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity > > a.. 7 New Members > > Visit Your Group > > SPONSORED LINKS > > a.. Small business finance > > b.. Business finance online > > c.. Business finance training > > d.. Business finance course > > e.. Business finance schools > > Best Company > > Best place to work > > > > Play the Bix.com > > > > faceoff to see! > > > > Yahoo! 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