From my understanding, Asio is imbedded into something. So for it to work,
you would have to enable it in the device you intend to use it with. I believe QWS could care less whether it is Asio or not, since it is just sending midi messages to a midi device. The device takes care of how those messages should be used and how the Asio works. Again, this is how I am understanding it, maybe somebody has a better understanding of Asio and can correct or confirm what I have said in this topic.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Adamson" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List avoiding latency, are ASIO drivers the answer.


Hi Raymond and all.

So from this can I take it that ASIO drivers will appear in the same list as any virtual midi cables and software synths? From what I'd read I thought the sequencer has to support the ASIO format, is this not the case?

I'm not even sure if ASIO is what I need. All I want is something that is responsive enough that I can record one track while listening to the others. when I try this using the Microsoft gm soft synth built in to Windows theirs around a 250 ish millisecond delay. From the tests I've run it looks like the delay is on the output rather than the recording. Will getting a decent external soundcard and rooting the midi through that work for me?

It was a lot simpler in the days of win 98, for MIDI it just worked. not much else did but at leased MIDI was ok. <grins!>

thanks for any info.
Nick.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Grote" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List avoiding latency, are ASIO drivers the answer.


Well, here's my experience with Asio drivers.
First, you are right in saying that the default Windows stuff is not very good. Although you can use it if absolutely nothing else. If you want to be garenteed no delay, you can get a cheep keyboard, many of the keyboard nowadays have sounds that are much better than Microsoft for a low price. If you want to use Asio, I would recommend getting a soundcard which supports it. I don't know which do though, so that will be up to others to help make that decision. If the soundcard you're getting has a synth with Asio drivers, you should be able to use it in QWS, since QWS will search for and use any input and output ports detected on the system. I haven't really come across a situation where it didn't work with anything. However this is just my theory, I haven't tried it as of yet because i don't have a soundcard that supports this. I do know, that if you want to use soundfonts, you can use Synth Font, or a vst plugin with a vst host that supports Asio drivers. Then you can install a virtual midi cable to route the signal back to qws and it will definitely work so long as the asio driver works properly and you have everything set up correctly. I haven't really gotten this to work either, well I did once, but that was on an old laptop which died several months after. The latancy wasn't totally gone either, but it was mch lower than with standard drivers. Since my struggle to get Asio drivers working has led to a computer crash with too many conflicting drivers, for now I am living with the average 100ms delay I get. I use the on screen keyboard on this computer anyway, and so the delay doesn't bother me too much as I am often playing slowly. My other computer has a keyboard hooked up to it and there is no delay because the keyboard is a hardware synth.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Adamson" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:55 PM
Subject: QWS List avoiding latency, are ASIO drivers the answer.


Hi All.

I'm new to the list. I've played with QWS a bit in the past but want to get back in to doing more composing.

When I was in my teens I did quite a bit of playing around with MIDI music on windows 98. I've recently started to look at this again.
On my windows XP laptop there seems to be a huge latency between the
time I play a note and when I here it, anything up to half a second.
Doing some googling it would appear that the built in midi stuff in Windows XP is rubbish and that for best results I should get an external soundcard which supports the "low latency ASIO drivers". The use of these drivers would also be needed by the sequencing software I would be using. I'm currently using an ancient version of cakewalk express I got free with a magazine in 1999 and I guess it doesn't support these ASIO drivers. Is all of this correct or is there something I can do with my current setup?

What software would people recommend with screen readers in mind. One of
the sound cards I'm looking at comes with a cut down version of pro
tools, and one with a cut down version of a-base. Are either of these
accessible? If I'm wrong about any of this please let me know. Its been
some time since I looked in to this and stuff has changed.

Does QWS support the ASIO drivers?

I also don't want to spend a load of money either, this is just a hobby
thing.

Any information that could show a little light on this would be gratefully received.

Thanks.

Nick.


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