Re: Re[2]: QWS List replacing Microsoft gs wave-table synth

Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:29:00 -0700

I don't know of any mailing list for discussing soundfonts, especially from an accesssibility perspective. When I finish my tutorials, I'll post a link to it on this list. Anyone who wants me to talk about it further can then e-mail me off list. If we do happen to find a mailing list to discuss it on, i'd be interested in that too. Maybe someone should create one? One thing you have to think about, is there are many different soundfont players, and many read soundfonts slightly differently. Take SFZ, for example. Anyone using it for sequencing should stick with it. Similarly, if you intend to use it with a specific player, you should test it with that player, and not one that sort of works the same, thinking it'll sound better once you switch over.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> 
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Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:05 AM
Subject: Re[2]: QWS List replacing Microsoft gs wave-table synth



 Hey Raymond,

I'm thinking about creating my own soundfonts as well and thus would
like to discuss it off list. It is indeed not really qws-related, may
be we need sorta place where we can discuss things like that on
another mailinglist, or just on this one. it's how the moderators like
it.
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Regards,
Leonard de Ruijter
Playing in the dark



Sunday, August 14, 2011, 2:59:24 AM, you wrote:


Well, I found a way, but it's certainly not easy.
currently what I use is Sf2comp. what it does, is it decompiles a soundfont into wav file, and a text file describing how the wavs should be used, like key ranges, velocity ranges, instruments, etc. Then, you can make changes to 
the wavs or the text file and recompile. You can make your own soundfonts
with it, however i always decompile a simple one first and then modify it. If you've got a ton of musical experience, it shooudlnt' be a problem once 
you get the simple code down, but you'll still have t o play around a bit
with the peramitors to get the exact result you want. It's like making
Dectalk do things, if you're familiar with that. You don't really quite know 
what you'll get until you listen.
 Maybe we can talk about it off list?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayson Smith" <[email protected]> 
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:53 PM
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Hi,
Okay, now that this has come up... Is there an easy way to create your own 
soundfont from samples you have laying around? Just want to do stupid
stuff like playing MIDI files with weird samples.
Jayson
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Grote" <[email protected]> 
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List replacing Microsoft gs wave-table synth
Definitely agreed. I haven't tried larger than 8 meg soundfonts, but the 
voice cutting out problem is more likely a bassmidi thing, and not
anything having to do with how much system resources you have.
I'm on hydrogen audio forums, and I made some suggestions there, since it 
was pretty big on those forums. I'm waiting to here back.
Congrats to the author of the midi plug-in for xM play, and to the one
who turned it into a synth driver.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Bello" <[email protected]> 
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:02 PM
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alright, I simply don't know why list filters do not regular whether
the subject is {qws} re: something and re: [qws} something. in any
case, the driver has been working just great for me. My notebook has
got ... this 1.6 ghz processor, 1 gig of ram and the thing works most
OK with most midis using the fluid r3 gs soundfont, a decent
alternative. YOu can surely load de 2gb crisis one and expect much
more worse performance! it works real nice with qws, but band in a box
seems to lag jsut a bit. i need to find a soundfont a bit under 142 mb
which is the size of the soundfont I am currently using. In any case,
problem solved, period. I think, and my suggestion is for this synth
to be put under the "misc" sectionw here the articles are ETC at the
qws home page, I am sure many will apreciate this information! and
perhaps, out of all of the ones who get this, we may commend or
recognize the author's work in some way.

2011/8/13, Raymond Grote <[email protected]>:
Yes, it has nothing to do with midi volume, it just changes the volume 
of
Bassmidi's sound. By efault it's all the way up, which is to me, a
pretty
comfortable level for an average midi.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: QWS List replacing Microsoft gs wave-table synth


Then the important question is, will this volume control respond to
MIDI
volume? (Continuous Controller 7)

-----Original Message-----
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Raymond Grote
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:57 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List replacing microsoft gs wave-table synth

And yet even some more information, the bassmidi driver is in fact, a
realtime implementation of XM Play's midi plug-in. That's why they are 
so
similar.
There is a volume control in Bassmidi's config window, you just have to 
look
around for it. There are two tabs in the window, one called soundfont
and
one called advanced, in the advanced tab there is a volume control.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Grote" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List replacing microsoft gs wave-table synth



Whoa guys, the bassmidi driver is certainly a sttep forward!
It sounds almost exactly like xM play, which is what I was looking
for.
Very nice reverb and chorus! Very responsive without Asio drivers, a
nice
accessible config window, and no instrument issues or looping issues
to
complain about. And some other advanced controllers are supported too. 
Sometimes it can be a bit of a struggle to get it to work, just load
up a
midi in winamp or something that will use it, then load in QWS and it 
should work garenteed.
The only complaints I have are, A, the volume is loud, which is good, 
but
you might want to watch out for distortion. It's not overly loud, just loud enough you have to be careful if you're pushing it as loud as it 
can
go. And b, there seems to be a voice limit, because when loading a
custom
8 meg soundfont, instruments were cutting out left and right with some 
really heavy midis. I had the same problem with XM Play before they
updated the midi plug-in and added an adjustable voice limit, so notes 
cutting out is something you might want to watch out for. But it
shouldn't
be bad if you stay relatively simple
Thanks for the driver, it's the best yet and I will definitely share
with
friends!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Bello" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List replacing microsoft gs wave-table synth
alright.. and, there is more! as of March 2011 some people have been 
working hard at this already! the following link points to a driver
that replaces the microsoft gs wavetable sofsynth by installing an
"empty" midi driver. You can then configure the driver through a
really simplistic and accessible interface which will let you load a 
soundfont file and you can even give some of them priority above
others. This driver, this thing, enables any sound card that cannot
use sound fonts to dinamically load any of your preferred sound fonts 
into ram memory, called bass mmidi driver:
https://github.com/mudlord/bassmididrv

2011/8/13, Alfredo The Writer of music scores <[email protected]>:

I meant reverberation.
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