Hey, guys, since this isn't really QWS related, could you please take it to private email?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Florian-achtige Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:05 AM To: QWS list Subject: Re: QWS List 3 keyboards, one question Hi Daniel, What I currently have going is this: - a yamaha psr - 290 which I can either use on its own or, through the use of a midi usb interface and an audio interface to reduce latency, hook it to Cakewalk Sonar to play software synths - the usb audio interface is hooked to a pair of m-audio speakers, with a 1/8 inch patch chord - the laptop runs win7 with cakewalk sonar 8 on it. So, I never really move the keyboard around , its a bit too luggish for that currently. I play it on my own or I record it in basic Sonar tracks, but I never record the audio of the PSR on its own because the sounds really aren't adequate enough for that. The mox6 would substitute the midi interfac at least and the audio interface as well , because it has both integrated. The fact that it has no speakers could be a problem though when I am in a position where I do not have my m-audio's handy to plug it into. Also, the 64 note polyphony, which I have confirmed, will likely more often than not get in my way unless I render the audio from the mox to my DAW before building onto it. That is an extra step, but a natural oneif I am in that kind of setup. Its not so very well-equipped to handle on-its-own playback it appears. I don't know if it has speakers, but now you mention it I don't think I ever saw that mentioned anywhere. Based on those observations, I'm guessing the psr s750 is the better choice for now, but I will make the final judgement when I actually have them both in front of me at a store to compare. What I am wondering though, is what the psr s750 offers in the form of tweaking your sounds. The mox has a lot of effects built in, as well as a lot of settable parameters, but I cannot find anything about the s750's capabilities on this front. I know there is some stuff you can do, but not exactly what :) I hope this clears up a few things, Florian 2013/5/6, Daniel Romero <[email protected]>: > Hi Florian! So last night, i did what I said I would do. I looked up > videos and am impressed on the capabilitys of the high end PSRs750 and > S950 series. So this comes down to what are you doing a lot of? From > what it seems like, the PSR is a great board, still for arranging, > composing, and experimenting while the MOX is the mini studio out of > the box. You get a 16 track sequencer, with parameters to tweeque your > sounds, to different modes, both pattern and song mode, and lots of > crazy features. Are you doing more live recording? Sampling? What is > your main purpose? Do you play in a band? I ask this because both of > these are good boards, but I want you to get the best bang for your > buck without losing any features you might need, got me? I love the > Motif series, always have and always will. Holds a huge spot in my > heart. I just love the thickness of Yamaha's sounds in general. I love > the pattern mode on the Motif, but the audio recording into the PSR is > great. Being able to play with midi and audio files? Sonds awesome! > Also, which one do you like the feel of. Most likely this keyboard > will be play most of the time because it'll be your only one, so what > feels good on your fingers? Do you have audio equipment to hook u your > MOX too? I believe the PSR's have speakers, the MOX doesn't. So be > mindful of that. You're going to need studio monitors or a keyboard > amp. > I hope i'm helping you out here. I just want to feel out what you're > doing so that I can recommend the best choice for you because after > looking up videos last night, both boards look fantastic. > Take care! > > On 5/6/13, Florian-achtige <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello David, >> >> I have seen that there has been a lot of accessibility documentation >> for the motif series of keyboards, and since the mox , mmx and mo >> series are sort of spin-offs of that series, you can sort of take >> that knowledge and fit it to those keyboards. I can however not find >> any audio tutorials, demos or textual notes about PSR series >> keyboards when it comes tobutton layout, menu navigation etc. Have I >> not looked in the right place or has nobody ever bothered to write such a thing? >> If the latter, and I do decide to go for the s750, I will do this. >> >> Florian >> >> 2013/5/6, David (Mr Music) <[email protected]>: >>> Hi Florian >>> >>> I used the psr-s710 for just over a year, and now have access to, >>> it's my friends, psr-s950. >>> >>> You can download sounds for these keyboards: we haven't done it, >>> because I am particular about security - viruses, etc. >>> >>> It's an easy keyboard to use, once you understand it. The psr-s710 >>> was better than the psr-s950 in this respect, simply because with >>> the 950 they have now made all the buttons smaller and closer >>> together, plus there are a couple of >>> >>> extra buttons, >>> which makes jumping around the dashboard dauting when playing live. >>> Native >>> sounds >>> are good, though, especially the sax and guitars. >>> >>> I used Roland products for about 20 years, but found they got behind >>> in sound quality, to Yamaha, so I've been using Yamaha for most of >>> my work since 2011. >>> >>> Let me know if there's anything specific you want to know about the >>> top-end psr series boards. >>> >>> David >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Florian-achtige" <[email protected]> >>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 11:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: QWS List 3 keyboards, one question >>> >>> >>>> Hi Daniel, >>>> >>>> Thanks so much for being willing to check all this out :) I must >>>> admit I felt a little swamped by all the specs and such, so I'm >>>> glad for the extra pair of eyes, forgive the pun, to look at this stuff with me. >>>> I'll await your opinion with regards to the psr , and I certainly >>>> won't write off the mox yet, they're both excellent boards I >>>> believe >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Florian >>>> >>>> 2013/5/5, Daniel Romero <[email protected]>: >>>>> Hi Florian, no worries! If you're not looking for anything >>>>> complex, then the PSR would be great for you. Yes, the MOX, just >>>>> like the motif, is all about tweequing your sounds and doing lots >>>>> of adjusting to have a nice mix. I do believe that the MOX also >>>>> records to USB storage, so you wouldn't be losing out on that. I >>>>> will look up more information on the PSR you're interested in. >>>>> Since the MOX is the baby brother of the Motif series, it does not have sampling capabilities. >>>>> So you're correct, you wouldn't be able to download expansion >>>>> packs for the MOX. I've read all over the place different things >>>>> about the poliphony on the MOX. On some sites I've seen 64 note >>>>> and on other's I've seen 124... I know... Weird huh? Anyway, if >>>>> you're sequencing you definitely need more than 64. It would start >>>>> giving out on you really quick with all the effects and such. >>>>> Seems like you're leaning more twoards the PSR which is another >>>>> great board from what I read in the past, but I will look up >>>>> videos and let you know what I think , if anything. I do own a Motif XF6, which I'm done paying off this month. >>>>> Lol IT made my wallet cry, but it was a great investment. Thanks >>>>> so much for hearing me out. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/5/13, Florian-achtige <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>> >>>>>> I take it you have used/owned either one or both of these keyboards? >>>>>> I currently own a very meager yamaha psr-290, so any of these 3 >>>>>> would be a giant leap upwards. Here's what I found regarding the >>>>>> two yamaha's, I'd be grateful if you could check my statements >>>>>> for validity :) >>>>>> >>>>>> PSR s750: >>>>>> - Expandable: styles and voice packages can be downloaded for the >>>>>> board, which I believe you cannot do with the mox. >>>>>> - traditional approach: I got the idea the psr still uses the >>>>>> concept of styles and accompaniments, while the mox works a >>>>>> little differently, focusing on individual parts and linking them >>>>>> together to eventually create songs. This looks more powerful, >>>>>> but also more complex. >>>>>> - The mox has the ability to allow for incoming mic signal >>>>>> processing, for example to vocode it onto another voice. I >>>>>> believe the psr does not do this, or only the s950 does. >>>>>> - The mox appears to be more focused on being able to tweak your >>>>>> voices to the smallest detail while the psr s750 is more bread >>>>>> and butter with somewhat less editing capabilities when it comes to that. >>>>>> - I believe the psr has double the poliphony, if I remember off >>>>>> the top of my head. >>>>>> - Lastly, I believe the PSR can record to USB storage while the >>>>>> mox cannot do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> These are some jumbled impressions of what I found reading >>>>>> reviews and watching video demo's. You say the song and >>>>>> performance modes and such are very accessible, how does that >>>>>> work? Do you have a menu layout of some kind for these? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for my many questions, I wish to know as much information >>>>>> as possible before making my choice. I want to invest in an >>>>>> instrument I can still count on in 5, maybe 10 years :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Florian >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/5/5, Daniel Romero <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> Hey! I'm a Yamaha snob. So the first two choices I would >>>>>>> definitely go for. Particularly the first one. The first one is >>>>>>> the baby brother of the Yamaha Motif XS series. That keyboard >>>>>>> both as a workstation and a controller is fantastic. You have >>>>>>> top of the line sounds, and if blind, the sequencer both in >>>>>>> song mode and in pattern mode are very accessible. So if you >>>>>>> just wanted to sequence something on the keyboard, you can >>>>>>> without plugging the keyboard up to the computer all the time, >>>>>>> swift through 20,000 sounds to find the one that fits your >>>>>>> project and deal with the fact that you just lost your idea. >>>>>>> Plus, you can edit your sounds in realtime, and you have >>>>>>> performer functions as well like split and transpose right at >>>>>>> your finger tips. At the end of the day it depends what you're >>>>>>> looking for. If you're looking for a keyboard to do everything >>>>>>> with, which includes producing/sequencing music and performance >>>>>>> capabilities, the MOX6 is a great board to go for. You have the >>>>>>> 1500 sounds that the XS series had, an accessible sequencer, and >>>>>>> over 6000 performances to play with. >>>>>>> If you just want something simple and with many features for >>>>>>> performers/aranging, then the PSR would be good for you. Think >>>>>>> about your options, what you're trying to do with the keyboard >>>>>>> and how will it help you in future projects when you start >>>>>>> getting into heavy duty tasks. >>>>>>> Good luck, and keep us informed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/5/13, Florian-achtige <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am hunting for a new keyboard at the moment and have narrowed >>>>>>>> it down to three possibilities that do what I want: >>>>>>>> - yamaha MOX6 >>>>>>>> - yamaha psr s750 >>>>>>>> - roland BK-5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no idea about how they play, how accessible they are, >>>>>>>> what I can do and cannot do on these machines, so here's hoping >>>>>>>> some of you may have experience with these who can give me some >>>>>>>> pointers on what's good and bad about them when you are fully >>>>>>>> blind. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks a lot in advance, >>>>>>>> Florian >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Daniel C. 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