On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nathan Coulter wrote:
-------Original Message-------
From: Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Rd] dos-style line endings in .Rbuildignore result in files not
being excluded
Sent: 2008-10-14 12:59
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nathan Coulter wrote:
> Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>
>> But to the point: how often do people get DOS-style files on a
>> Unix-alike? You have to work pretty hard to do this, and there comes a
>> point at which complicating R to workaround wrongly encoded files is not
>> worth the trouble. Let's see if anyone else reports having done this.
>>
>
> In my experience, this is a common occurrence. Granted, foreign line
> delimiters are less common in a configuration file like .Rbuildignore, but
> they
> have been the culprit more than once in package problems I have encountered.
> think functionality like Python's universal newlines would be a big win for
> R.
But R *does* have 'universal newlines' on its connections, and has for
many years.
I'm suggesting that Python might be a better choice than perl for auxiliary
scripts because these details are handled under the hood.
You've completely missed the point: R would be a better choice than
either.
When R was first released it was slow to start up and not good at
scripting. But that's no longer true and the plan is to replace Perl
scripts with R scripts. Making the developers learn an extra scripting
language (Python, and a most un-R-like one at that) just to get a feature
R already has would be ludicrous.
--
Nathan Coulter
-------Original Message-------
From: Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Rd] dos-style line endings in .Rbuildignore result in files not
being excluded
Sent: 2008-10-14 12:59
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nathan Coulter wrote:
> Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>
>> But to the point: how often do people get DOS-style files on a
>> Unix-alike? You have to work pretty hard to do this, and there comes a
>> point at which complicating R to workaround wrongly encoded files is not
>> worth the trouble. Let's see if anyone else reports having done this.
>>
>
> In my experience, this is a common occurrence. Granted, foreign line
> delimiters are less common in a configuration file like .Rbuildignore, but
> they
> have been the culprit more than once in package problems I have encountered.
> think functionality like Python's universal newlines would be a big win for
> R.
But R *does* have 'universal newlines' on its connections, and has for
many years.
We are talking about a Perl script here, not R.
> One of the big draws in a programming language like Python is its claim to
> being portable, and universal newlines are a critical part of that
> functionality. Mac-style newline delimiters are surfacing more often these
> days as well, and the best place to sort this all out would be in the
> built-in
> file manipulation functions.
> --
> Nathan Coulter
> Computer Programmer
>
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