Hi all,

I need to transform classic 32bit Fortran code to 64bit Fortran code, see the discussion [R-SIG-Mac] rnorm.halton. But I'm clearly a beginner in Fortran...

Does someone already do this for his package?

From here, http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?coll=linux&db=bks&fname=/SGI_Developer/Porting_Guide/ch03.html , I identify the following changes (Fortran types) to the Fortran code:

  - INTEGER to INTEGER*8
  - REAL*8 to REAL*16

The code I would like to change is available on R forge here : 
http://r-forge.r-project.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/pkg/randtoolbox/src/LowDiscrepancy.f?rev=4229&root=rmetrics&view=markup

Another question I have is how do I tell the R code to use the 64bit version of my code on 64bit machine?

In the current implementation, the file quasiRNG.R calls directly the Fortran code with .Fortran.
How could I use the 64bit version directly in the R code?

I suspect I need to have a quasiRNG.c file where I will use preprocessor statement that will select the good version of the function to call. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance

Christophe


Le 15 sept. 2009 à 18:25, Anirban Mukherjee a écrit :

Sorry, what I should have said was Halton numbers are quasi-random,
and not pseudo-random. Quasi-random is the technically appropriate
terminology.

Halton sequences are low discrepancy: the subsequence looks/smells
random. Hence, they are often used in quasi monte carlo simulations.
To be precise, there is only 1 Halton sequence for a particular prime.
Repeated calls to Halton should return the same numbers. The first
column is the Halton sequence for 2. the second for 3, the third for 5
and so on using the first M primes (for M columns). (You can also
scramble the sequence to avoid this.)

I am using them to integrate over a multivariate normal space. If you
take 1000 random draws, then sum f() over the draws is the expectation
of f(). If f() is very non-linear (and/or multi-variate) then even
with large N, its often hard to get a good integral. With quasi-random
draws, the integration is better for the same N. (One uses the inverse
distribution function.) For an example, you can look at Train's paper
(page 4 and 5 have a good explanation) at:

http://elsa.berkeley.edu/wp/train0899.pdf

In the context of simulated maximum likelihood estimation, such
integrals are very common. Of course true randomness has its own
place/importance: its just that quasi-random numbers can be very
useful in certain contexts.

Regards,
Anirban

PS: qnorm(halton()) gets around the problem of the random deviates not working.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM, David Winsemius
<dwinsem...@comcast.net> wrote:

On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Anirban Mukherjee wrote:

Thanks everyone for your replies. Particularly David.

The numbers are pseudo-random. Repeated calls should/would give the
same output.

As I said, this package is not one with which I have experience. It
has _not_ however the case that repeated calls to (typical?) random
number functions give the same output when called repeatedly:

 > rnorm(10)
  [1] -0.8740195  2.1827411 -0.1473012 -1.4406262  0.1820631
-1.3151244 -0.4813703  0.8177692
  [9]  0.2076117  1.8697418
 > rnorm(10)
  [1] -0.7725731  0.8696742 -0.4907099  0.1561859  0.5913528
-0.8441891  0.2285653 -0.1231755
  [9]  0.5190459 -0.7803617
 > rnorm(10)
  [1] -0.9585881 -0.0458582  1.1967342  0.6421980 -0.5290280
-1.0735112  0.6346301  0.2685760
  [9]  1.5767800  1.0864515
 > rnorm(10)
  [1] -0.60400852 -0.06611533  1.00787048  1.48289305  0.54658888
-0.67630052  0.52664127 -0.36449997
  [9]  0.88039397  0.56929333

I cannot imagine a situation where one would _want_ the output to be
the same on repeated calls unless one reset a seed. Unless perhaps I
am not understanding the meaning of "random" in the financial domain?

--
David

  Currently, Halton works fine when used to just get the
Halton sequence, but the random deviates call is not working in 64 bit
R. For now, I will generate the numbers in 32 bit R, save them and
then load them back in when using 64 bit R. The package maintainers
can look at it if/when they get a chance and/or access to 64 bit R.

Thanks!

Best,
Anirban

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:01 AM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net
wrote:
I get very different output from the two versions of Mac OSX R as
well. The 32 bit version puts out a histogram that has an expected,
almost symmetric unimodal distribution. The 64 bit version created a
bimodal distribution with one large mode near 0 and another smaller
mode near 10E+37. Postcript output attached.




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