On 12/06/2009 02:49 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
On Dec 6, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Romain Francois wrote:

On 12/06/2009 01:20 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Romain Francois wrote:

I agree too, I was just trying to put on the balance the amount of work that 
would require graphics supporting connections.

Who's willing to do it ?


The issue is not the will nor complexity on the GD side, but connections are 
not exposed outside of R (or at the C level), so there is currently no way to 
do it (AFAIR). Jeff Horner has proposed a patch long ago and Cairo works with 
connections if you patch R, but connections are to date still not part of the 
API. So I suspect the real issue is to create a connection API so packages (and 
devices) can use it.

Cheers,
Simon

As much as I'd love a C API for connections, streaming graphics out to 
connections don't necessarily have to depend on a C api. The trick we use in 
the RProtoBuf package to stream out to a binary connection is to call the R 
function writeBin several times. Something like:

/* next element is some raw vector we want to stream out */
SEXP nextElement = PROTECT( getNextElement() ) ;

/* con is the INTSXP connection number */
/* create the call : writeBin( nextElement, con ) */
SEXP call = PROTECT( lang3( "writeBin", nextElement, con ) );
SEXP res  = PROTECT( eval( call, R_GlobalEnv) ) ;

/* grab the number of bytes actually sent out */
int n = INTEGER(res)[0] ;

UNPROTECT(3) ; /* res, call, nextElement */

We do the same with "readBin" to read from a binary connection chunk by chunk.


Well, that's a hack like any other and error handling will be a pain. Of course 
you can always use the evaluator, but I would not want to write or maintain a 
hack like that :)

Cheers,
Simon

Fair enough, so back to square one with Jeff's patch. Since jeff's original post or other reminders did not get replied (at least publicly), it is not clear what one can do to help moving to the direction of a C api for connection: a patch providing a higher level api, testing, documentation ?

On 12/05/2009 07:06 PM, Tobias Verbeke wrote:

Hi,

Gabor Grothendieck wrote:

Its not just the time. Its also the nuisance of having to manage files
that
I never needed in the first place.

I agree with Gabor that it is more than a 'nice to have'.

There are situations (when integrating R with other
applications) you don't want to touch a disk and
manage files afterwards (e.g. when one wants to pass
a byte string).

A recent question on the topic can be found here:

http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e8/help/09/11/5902.html

Best,
Tobias

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Romain Francois
<romain.franc...@dbmail.com
wrote:

On 12/04/2009 03:19 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:

Thanks.

I am looking for the data to be just as if I had read in the png
file (or
wmf file or whatever).

Hi,

You are after the binary payload of the rendered graph as a png file. So
you are going to have to go through a png file.

It would be nice to be able to render to a binary connection, like a
rawConnection, but it seems like an expensive "nice to have"


grid.cap seems to give a bitmap and then would
require some sort of processing to get the png or wmf, etc. form. Also
note
that I need it for classic graphics and not just grid graphics.

grid.cap does not seem to care, baptiste code uses traditional graphics


What I have right now works just as I want it _except_ I have to
create a
file and then read it back in which seems a waste.

Can you measure the time it takes to do dev.off() and readBin ?


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:06 AM, baptiste auguie<
baptiste.aug...@googlemail.com>   wrote:

Hi,
You can use grid.cap,

x11()
plot(1:10)
g = grid.cap()
dev.off()
str(g)
# chr [1:672, 1:671] "white" "white" "white" "white" "white" ...

but as far as I understand in ?grid.cap and the underlying code there
is no "capGrob" equivalent that wouldn't require opening a new device
before capturing the output.

I hope I'm mistaken.

Best,

baptiste

2009/12/4 Gabor Grothendieck<ggrothendi...@gmail.com>:

Currently I have an application that saves the current graphics image

(that

was created with classic graphics or grid graphics) to a file and
then

reads

the file back in using readBin:

png("my.png")
plot(1:10)
dev.off()
raw.img<- readBin("my.png", "raw", size = 1, n = 100000000)

(I am doing this on Windows but would like to be able to do it on any
platform.)

Does the new raster functionality give me any way to get the object

raw.img

without creating the intermediate file, my.png? If so what is the
corresponding code?


On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Paul
Murrell<p.murr...@auckland.ac.nz
wrote:

Hi
This is for developers of extension packages that provide extra

*graphics
devices* for R.
In the *development* version of R, support has been added to the

graphics
engine for sending raster images (bitmaps) to a graphics device. This
consists mainly of two new device functions: dev_Raster() and

dev_Cap().
The R_GE_version constant (in GraphicsEngine.h) has been bumped
up to 6

as
a marker of this change.
This means that, at a minimum, all graphics devices should be
updated
to
provide dummy implementations of these new functions that just
say the
feature is not yet implemented (see for example the PicTeX and XFig

devices
in the 'grDevices' package).
A full implementation of dev_Raster() should be able to draw a
raster

image
(provided as an array of 32-bit R colors) at any size, possibly
(bilinear)
interpolated (otherwise nearest-neighbour), at any orientation,
and with
a
per-pixel alpha channel. Where these are not natively supported by a
device, the graphics engine provides some routines for scaling and

rotating
raster images (see for example the X11 device). The dev_Cap()
function
should return a representation of a raster image captured from the

current
device. This will only make sense for some devices (see for
example the
Cairo device in the 'grDevices' package).

A little more information and a couple of small examples are
provided
at
http://developer.r-project.org/Raster/raster-RFC.html

Paul
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