On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Matt Shotwell wrote:

> I do keep track of R's bug reports by RSS (Atom actually), but it's a
> bit more complicated than just copying the `feed' link after following
> the Show open bugs new-to-old link. If you use that feed, you will get
> the earliest 100 entries, starting Jan 28, 2000.


Actually, the "recommended" link (first on the page) leads to a new-to-old open 
bugs query -- that's at least what I use most of the time -- and the feed link 
from there does work as expected.

Cheers,
Simon


> I have had good luck
> monitoring the most recent bug reports using the following feed link
> (query):
> 
> https://bugs.r-project.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?chfieldfrom=-4w&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&title=Bug%20List&ctype=atom
> 
> This query gives you the all the changes in the last four weeks
> (chfieldfrom=-4w). Of course, you can customize your query and the
> corresponding RSS/Atom feed using the Bugzilla advanced search feature
> here:
> 
> https://bugs.r-project.org/bugzilla3/query.cgi?format=advanced
> 
> Cheers and Happy Holidays,
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 11:32 -0500, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 23, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Uwe Ligges wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This message contains a good question:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any reason why the bug reports are no longer mailed to R-devel?
>>>> 
>>>> The way Bugzilla works is that all parties involved in a bug get e-mails - 
>>>> but then they get all of them including all updates of the status, replies 
>>>> etc. One way to get involved is to be the assignee for a bug and most bugs 
>>>> have R-core as the assignee so that's where it goes. Although we could add 
>>>> R-devel on the CC list it would mean that *every* change to a bug will 
>>>> result in a message and I suspect R-devel subscribers would not be quite 
>>>> happy about that.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know of any provision that would make it possible to broadcast the 
>>>> initial report only. Moreover, doing so on R-devel would be somewhat 
>>>> problematic, because people might reply to all and thus some 
>>>> correspondence would still land on R-devel whereas replies via website 
>>>> would not - and that could lead to a serious confusion.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I'd appreciate to get a notice what is going on in the bug repository 
>>>>> without having to look on those web pages.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I could add you to the CC list of any (or all) components - that's one way 
>>>> (it could be interesting to see how it works traffic-wise). Another would 
>>>> be to have a dedicated list for the bug traffic (R-bugs is not a list). 
>>>> Or, as I said, we could put R-devel on the CC list for all components. I 
>>>> wouldn't mind doing so, but I'm not sure what the R-devel readership would 
>>>> say... Comments are welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> I don't know what the volume of traffic would be from Bugzilla these days 
>>> versus what it used to be from Jitterbug.
>>> 
>>> One of the issues with Jitterbug and the cc'ing of bug reports and comments 
>>> to R-devel, is that the e-mails would frequently come from the participants 
>>> in the bug report who were not subscribers to R-devel. That required that 
>>> the R-devel moderators manually approve those e-mails, which added 
>>> overhead. In fact, since moving to Bugzilla, the volume of manual approvals 
>>> on R-devel has declined notably since those e-mails are no longer mirrored.
>>> 
>> 
>> That is an interesting point and confirms my feeling that the dual-mode 
>> approach has serious implications.
>> 
>> 
>>> There is not an easy way to interact with Bugzilla via e-mail as there was 
>>> with Jitterbug. The last time that I looked into this during the 
>>> transition, it would require e-mails with a very specific formatting and 
>>> name-value pair style entries in the message body, which could then be 
>>> parsed by Bugzilla for inclusion into the underlying database. So one could 
>>> not just reply to a Bugzilla bug report or comment with a free form e-mail 
>>> as could be done with Jitterbug.
>>> 
>> 
>> We work around that for R-bugs by injecting the comments directly into the 
>> bugzilla database. The rationale is that no extra e-mail notification is 
>> needed since the e-mail (hopefully) went to all parties involved so 
>> bypassing bugzilla for the update is fine. So far it seemed to work just 
>> fine. (The only additional service I was thinking of would be to allow the 
>> change of status by e-mail - using some define keyword/phrase - so you don't 
>> have to go back to the website to close a bug).
>> 
>> 
>>> If an e-mail list mirror is desired, I would vote for a separate READ-ONLY 
>>> list that folks could subscribe to and/or perhaps have an RSS feed that 
>>> could be followed for updates. Making the list read-only would obviate 
>>> situations where somebody replied to a bug report and/or comment via 
>>> e-mail, where that reply would of course not make it into the Bugzilla repo 
>>> thread, resulting in a loss of information.
>>> 
>> 
>> Maybe the reply-to could be R-bugs which would solve the reply issue, but 
>> the original issue of non-registered users replying would still remain with 
>> even bigger consequences (the replies would not even go to bugzilla). 
>> However, I could generate bounce e-mails for those, notifying the sender 
>> that he is not registered and thus his post will be discarded - not sure if 
>> that helps, though (and it may lead to issues with spammers getting 
>> replies). Also it would increase the traffic on R-bugs which would make 
>> manual screening (which is what I do at the moment for people that try to 
>> e-mail new reports to R-bugs) almost impossible.
>> 
>> 
>>> With Bugzilla, the results of search queries generate an RSS feed link at 
>>> the bottom of the query results page (see the "Feed" link), which can be 
>>> subscribed to using one's favorite RSS reader. That would be one way of 
>>> keeping track of new/open bug reports.
>>> 
>> 
>> That sounds like a good idea to me - especially since it's there already ;).
>> 
>> 
>>> One could, if desired, create custom queries in Bugzilla using the Advanced 
>>> Search functionality and then use the resultant RSS feed link to keep track 
>>> of updates to the particular query result set.
>>> 
>>> Also, I don't know what the typical response time has been on Bugzilla once 
>>> a bug report is filed. Perhaps something could be noted there so that bug 
>>> reporters might have some expectation that a comment/reply might be 
>>> forthcoming within X days of filing. After that time frame, some 
>>> recommended form of follow up communication could take place as a 
>>> tickler/reminder of sorts.
>>> 
>> 
>> This is happening, but only to the assignees, so currently on R-core or to 
>> individuals.
>> 
>> Thanks for the comments,
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>>> That's my $0.02.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Marc Schwartz
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21.12.2010 18:50, Ken Williams wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A few days ago I filed a bug report on the unzip() function:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://bugs.r-project.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14462
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven't gotten any comments yet, so I thought I'd ask for comments
>>>>>> here.  I also see on the description of R-devel that the list "also
>>>>>> receives all (filtered, i.e. non-spam!) bug reports from R-bugs", but
>>>>>> I don't see it here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eventually I would like to help unzip() gain large-file support, such
>>>>>> as is offered by http://info-zip.org/UnZip.html version 6.0.  A
>>>>>> corresponding zip() function would be nice too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> Matthew S. Shotwell
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> Division of Biostatistics and Epidemiology
> Medical University of South Carolina
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