On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13-04-20 12:30 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Duncan Murdoch >> <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 13-04-20 11:09 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Hadley Wickham <h.wick...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious: how often do you use the Windows find command? We >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> put >>>>>>> instructions in place for people to run the install process with a >>>>>>> renamed >>>>>>> Rtools find command (which I think is the only conflict). The issue >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> more users who want to use the command line commands are familiar >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Unix variant (which came first, by the way) than the Windows one, so >>>>>>> renaming the Rtools one would cause trouble for more people. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Its not just find - its also sort. And really R has no business >>>>>> clobbering built in Windows commands. This is just wrong and really >>>>>> causes anyone who does any significant amount of Windows batch >>>>>> programming (or uses batch programs of any complexity) endless >>>>>> problems. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which is presumably why Rtools doesn't modify the path by default. >>>>> >>>>> Better solutions (e.g. Rstudio and devtools) temporarily set the path >>>>> on when you're calling R CMD *. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am well aware of the various kludges to address this including my >>>> own batchfiles ( http://batchfiles.googlecode.com ) which handles this >>>> by temporarily changing the path as well; however, the real problem is >>>> that Rtools does not play nice with Windows and that needs to be >>>> addressed directly. >>> >>> >>> >>> It has been. You ignored it. >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch >>> >> >> If some change to address this has been made that would be great but >> there is no mention of it on the Rtools page in the change history >> section (the only documented change relates to the png/tiff/jpeg >> libraries), there was no announcement that I saw and Rtools\bin still >> contains find and sort so what specifically is the change? > > > It's not a change to Rtools, it's a change is to the build system in R: it > allows you to rename sort or find in your own copy of Rtools, and R will use > whatever you specify. You were informed of this when I did it in 2007, and > I've mentioned it when the topic comes up here, most recently in the message > quoted above. That's a long time ago, so I don't remember if you tried it > then, but I've never heard a complaint from anyone else that it doesn't > work. >
I certainly was not aware of this and posts in this thread suggest that others were not aware of it either. Perhaps you could provide some details and links. I am sure many people would be interested. -- Statistics & Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel