Dear Duncan,

thank you for the quick reply.

Am 26.08.2013 16:47, schrieb Duncan Murdoch:
On 26/08/2013 8:51 AM, Benjamin Hofner wrote:
Hi,

related to this important discussion I have several questions:

What can I do to explicitly state that I want to use a certain,
*non-exported* generic function? The function I am currently talking of
is predict.smooth.spline from package stats. As I want to make shure
that *this* function is used I currently call
stats:::predict.smooth.spline() in my code, which now triggers a NOTE on
CRAN. Strange enough predict.smooth.spline even has a manual page but is
not exported (as is true for many other generic functions as well).

Actually the standard name is that predict() is a generic function,
predict.smooth.spline() is a method, but it's a good question.  Can you
describe why you want to call that method on something that isn't a
smooth.spline object?

Actually the object is a smooth.spline object but with additional attributes and more classes, i.e.,

class(mod)
[1] "opm_model"           "smooth.spline_model" "smooth.spline"

Now I have a specialized predict function predict.smooth.spline_model which in turn calls predict.smooth.spline.

I just tried to use NextMethod(generic = "predict", object, ...) and it seems to work. So this seems to be the desired solution. I tried this earlier and got error messages, perhaps because I omitted the argument generic. I guess the function then was confused what the generic is (predict or predict.smooth).


Is it advisable to specify (S3) methods without exporting them? How can
I access exactly this function without using :::? And/or shouldn't we (R
Core in this instance but others - including myself) export all methods
(especially if a manual exists anyway)?

The general reason for hiding methods is that it allows the author of
the package to change the internal implementation of the class without
worrying that it will break code that uses the method, i.e. it will stop
usages such as yours.  So you need to explain why you are doing what you
are doing.

I see no difference in these two ways to call the next generic function: In both cases I can (and do) specify further arguments, namely x for new data and deriv = 0. Thus in both cases I rely on the interface in the same way. I do not see any bonus for the package maintainer (both of the depending and dependent package). The interface stays the same and the class could change in both situations. Isn't a method always relying on the current implementation of a class? And isn't anything else more than unwanted? So again? Why hiding a method? The only reason I see is that one doesn't want to document the function properly.



A related question concerns the function stats:::n.knots. I want to use
this function to compute the number of knots for a spline (not
necessarily a smoothing spline as defined by smooth.spline were it is
originally used). The source of the function even states as a comment:
"## Namespace-hidden but at least available to programmeRs:" So I guess
this function can be considered to be stable and usable. Would it then
be possible for R Core to export this function?

Do I need to file a formal request for this issue?


Finally, if one needs to copy a function (perhaps with minor
modifications), how does one properly state the authorship of the code
that one copies? Are there any guidelines, rules, ...? Is it sufficient
for small functions to state the original authorship as a comment in the
source? Is it necessary to state the authorship in the manual? Or is it
even required to state the quthorship in the DESCRITPION? I already did
an extensive search of the R-devel mailing list but couldn't find an
appropriate answer. And after all I do not want to spend hours and hours
thinking about licenses, authorship etc. but I want to produce nice and
usable code (but also want to mention the original authors
appropriately)!

I would say that you should certainly state it in the man page, and have
something in the DESCRIPTION file as well.  It might be something like

Author:  Duncan Murdoch, with code from others (see the man pages)

However, I just looked at rgl (a package I maintain), and I see we
didn't do that.  We have a separate README file listing other credits.

This is a good solution. Do I need to specify the original License etc? And what about a helper function such as stats:::n.knots? This will not appear in the manual of my package. Is it sufficient in this case to document the authorship in the source (and perhaps a README as you suggested)?


Duncan Murdoch


Happy to learn more and read your thoughts and ideas about these issues.

All the best,
Benjamin

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