On 13-09-14 9:16 AM, Brian G. Peterson wrote:
On 09/14/2013 08:04 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
  >> On 13-09-13 12:00 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
But the focus here should not be on my hobby package. The focus
needs to be on how four CRAN maintainers (who do a boatload of
amazing work which is _truly_ appreciated in its thoroughness and
reach) could make the life of authors of 4800+ packages easier by
communicating and planning a tad more.

Let me paraphrase that:  "The CRAN maintainers do a lot of work, and it
helps me a lot, but if they only did a little bit more work it would
help me even more."

I suspect they'd be more receptive to suggestions that had them doing
less work, not more.

I think you're both right.

If the CRAN team would communicate more with this list about pending
changes, package authors could make those changes before submitting.
Those submissions that won't pass unannounced R-devel checks waste
everybody's time, including the time of the CRAN team.

Paraphrasing again: "If the CRAN team would do this, then they would waste less of everyone's time."

I think you should assume that the CRAN team doesn't choose to waste it's own time, so in their judgment, doing more on this list would waste more of its time.



Not to mention, most open source projects seem to have concluded that
more eyes on pending or proposed changes make everyone's life better in
the long term.

There are no secrets in R. You are perfectly free to run your package against exactly the same version the CRAN team is using. If you choose not to do so, you're the one wasting everyone's time.

Duncan Murdoch

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