On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 9:36 AM, <luke-tier...@uiowa.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 31 Oct 2016, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: > >> Thank you for looking into this Luke. >> >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:26 AM, <luke-tier...@uiowa.edu> wrote: >>> >>> On unix, unless event polling is enabled Sys.sleep just waits in a >>> select() call (with a SIGINT handler in place) so the elapsed time >>> isn't checked until after the select call is complete. Rstudio uses >>> event polling, and in particular sets R_wait_usec to 10000, which >>> means event and interrupt checks happen during a Sys.seep call. The R >>> GUI on macOS doesn't seem to do this (but my lldb skills aren't up to >>> checking). Now that we have this elapsed time limit mechanism it might >>> be a good idea to set the default for R_wait_usec to something >>> reasonable on unix in general. 100000 might be a good value. >>> >> >>> A more worrying thing I noticed while looking at this is that blocking >>> reads on fifos and pipes and probably sockets are not interruptable -- >>> that should probably be looked into. > > > I'll address the sleep issue sometime soon but I won't be able to look > into the blocking read issue for many months. SOmeone else might have > a chance to look earlier.
Thanks. So, if I understand it correctly, my example showing that setTimeLimit() doesn't work properly on Linux was unfortunately misleading, mainly due to me choosing Sys.sleep() and it does indeed work in most cases (except connections). For example, this works slowfcn <- function(time) { t0 <- Sys.time(); while(Sys.time() - t0 < time) Sys.sleep(0.1); TRUE } setTimeLimit(elapsed = 1.0) system.time(slowfcn(3)) ## Error in Sys.sleep(0.1) : reached elapsed time limit ## Timing stopped at: 0.004 0 1.008 > But for the situation you describe below using setTimeLimit doesn't > seem like the right approach. The parallel code is not written for > situations that need this kind of fault tolerance; it is not robust to > user interrupts and would not be to timer interrupts either. If you > are concerned that some potential workers might not be available then > you would be better checking that with a ping or simple ssh commend > first before starting a cluster on the available nodes. Yes, true. I didn't want to sidetrack the discussion too much, but I've started to make some standalone improvements based on parallel:::newPSOCKnode() & parallel:::.slaveRSOCK(), e.g. more control options for launching remote workers, say, over SSH with reverse tunneling (no need for port forwarding) and then running Rscript within a Docker container, e.g. https://github.com/HenrikBengtsson/future/blob/develop/R/makeClusterPSOCK.R https://github.com/HenrikBengtsson/future/blob/develop/incl/makeClusterPSOCK.R This part is fully backward compatible with makePSOCKcluster() and could be eventually be implemented in parallel itself. The next level up could be to make the worker loop to handle connection-setup timeouts and similar. By now I'm fairly ok with testing and validating remote SSH access etc, but I think it's possible to make exception handling a little bit more automatic and informative, particularly the part detecting when the connection and worker setup actually never happens. For a newcomer, it can be quite a challenge to troubleshoot why the setup of remote workers doesn't work. Thanks, Henrik > > Best, > > luke > > >> >> This is actually related to the use case where I want to use >> setTimeLimit(). When using parallel:::newPSOCKnode(), there's a >> 30-day timeout associated with the socket connection. Now, this long >> timeout is needed in order for long-running tasks to not to timeout >> the master-worker connection. However, when it comes to the actual >> setup of the connection, then it would be able to detect connection >> issues earlier than that. For example, if the socket connection >> cannot be established within 60 seconds, then it is very likely that >> the worker machine couldn't be reached, especially for connecting to >> remote machines over SSH. >> >> The current code of parallel:::newPSOCKnode() basically does: >> >> system("ssh remote.server.org Rscript -e <launch worker and connect >> back>", wait = FALSE) >> con <- socketConnection("localhost", port = 11000, server = TRUE, >> blocking = TRUE, open = "a+b", timeout = 30*24*60*60) >> >> If the remote SSH system call fails to reach or set up the worker, the >> following call to socketConnection() will sit there and wait for 30 >> days. Ideally one could solve this as: >> >> system("ssh remote.server.org Rscript -e <launch worker and connect >> back>", wait = FALSE) >> setTimeLimit(elapsed=60) >> con <- socketConnection("localhost", port = 11000, server = TRUE, >> blocking = TRUE, open = "a+b", timeout = 30*24*60*60) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Henrik >> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> luke >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016, peter dalgaard wrote: >>> >>>> Spencer also had tools and rsconnect loaded (via a namespace) but it >>>> doesn't seem to make a difference for me if I load them. It also doesn't >>>> seem to matter for me whether it is CRAN R, locally built R, Terminal, >>>> R.app. However, RStudio differs >>>> >>>>> setTimeLimit(elapsed=1) >>>> >>>> >>>> Error: reached elapsed time limit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> setTimeLimit(elapsed=1) >>>> >>>> >>>> Error: reached elapsed time limit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> setTimeLimit(elapsed=1); system.time({Sys.sleep(10);message("done")}) >>>> >>>> >>>> Error in Sys.sleep(10) : reached elapsed time limit >>>> Timing stopped at: 0.003 0.003 0.733 >>>> >>>> -pd >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 26 Oct 2016, at 21:54 , Henrik Bengtsson >>>>> <henrik.bengts...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the feedback and confirmations. Interesting to see that >>>>> it's also reproducible on macOS expect for Spencer; that might >>>>> indicate a difference in builds. >>>>> >>>>> BTW, my original post suggested that timeout error was for sure >>>>> detected while running Sys.sleep(10). However, it could of course >>>>> also be that it is only detected after it finishes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For troubleshooting, the help("setTimeLimit", package = "base") says >>>>> that: >>>>> >>>>> * "Time limits are checked whenever a user interrupt could occur. This >>>>> will happen frequently in R code and during Sys.sleep, but only at >>>>> points in compiled C and Fortran code identified by the code author." >>>>> >>>>> The example here uses Sys.sleep(), which supports and detects user >>>>> interrupts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The timeout error message is thrown by the R_ProcessEvents(void) >>>>> function as defined in: >>>>> >>>>> * src/unix/sys-unix.c >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/trunk/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L421-L453) >>>>> * src/gnuwin32/system.c >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/trunk/src/gnuwin32/system.c#L110-L140) >>>>> >>>>> So, they're clearly different implementations on Windows and Unix. >>>>> Also, for the Unix implementation, the code differ based on >>>>> preprocessing directive HAVE_AQUA, which could explain why Spencer >>>>> observes a different behavior than Peter and Berend (all on macOS). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Whenever the R_CheckUserInterrupt() function is called it in turn >>>>> always calls R_ProcessEvents(). At the end, there is a code snippet - >>>>> if (R_interrupts_pending) onintr(); - which is Windows specific and >>>>> could be another important difference between Windows and Unix. This >>>>> function is defined in: >>>>> >>>>> * src/main/errors.c >>>>> >>>>> (https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/trunk/src/main/errors.c#L114-L134) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The do_setTimeLimit() function controls global variables cpuLimitValue >>>>> and elapsedLimitValue, which are checked in R_ProcessEvents(), but >>>>> other than setting the timeout limits I don't think it's involved in >>>>> the runtime checks. The do_setTimeLimit() is defined in: >>>>> >>>>> * src/main/sysutils.c >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/trunk/src/main/sysutils.c#L1692-L1736) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, right now, I've got little extra time to troubleshoot >>>>> this further. >>>>> >>>>> /Henrik >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Berend Hasselman <b...@xs4all.nl> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 Oct 2016, at 04:44, Henrik Bengtsson >>>>>>> <henrik.bengts...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> ....... >>>>>>> This looks like a bug to me. Can anyone on macOS confirm whether >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> is also a problem there or not? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tried it on macOS El Capitan and got this (running in R.app with R >>>>>> version 3.3.2 RC (2016-10-23 r71574): >>>>>> >>>>>>> setTimeLimit(elapsed=1) >>>>>>> system.time({ Sys.sleep(10); message("done") }) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Error in Sys.sleep(10) : reached elapsed time limit >>>>>> Timing stopped at: 0.113 0.042 10.038 >>>>>> >>>>>> Berend >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Luke Tierney >>> Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences >>> University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386 >>> Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017 >>> Actuarial Science >>> 241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tier...@uiowa.edu >>> Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu >> >> > > -- > Luke Tierney > Ralph E. 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