This is cross-posted from SO (https://stackoverflow.com/q/4
7079702/1414455),
but I now feel that this needs someone from R-Devel to help understand
why
this is happening.
We are facing a weird situation in our code when using R's [`runif`][1]
and
setting seed with `set.seed` with the `kind = NULL` option (which
resolves,
unless I am mistaken, to `kind = "default"`; the default being
`"Mersenne-Twister"`).
We set the seed using (8 digit) unique IDs generated by an upstream
system,
before calling `runif`:
seeds = c(
"86548915", "86551615", "86566163", "86577411", "86584144",
"86584272", "86620568", "86724613", "86756002", "86768593",
"86772411",
"86781516", "86794389", "86805854", "86814600", "86835092",
"86874179",
"86876466", "86901193", "86987847", "86988080")
random_values = sapply(seeds, function(x) {
set.seed(x)
y = runif(1, 17, 26)
return(y)
})
This gives values that are **extremely** bunched together.
> summary(random_values)
Min. 1st Qu. Median Mean 3rd Qu. Max.
25.13 25.36 25.66 25.58 25.83 25.94
This behaviour of `runif` goes away when we use `kind =
"Knuth-TAOCP-2002"`, and we get values that appear to be much more
evenly
spread out.
random_values = sapply(seeds, function(x) {
set.seed(x, kind = "Knuth-TAOCP-2002")
y = runif(1, 17, 26)
return(y)
})
*Output omitted.*
---
**The most interesting thing here is that this does not happen on
Windows
-- only happens on Ubuntu** (`sessionInfo` output for Ubuntu & Windows
below).
# Windows output: #
> seeds = c(
+ "86548915", "86551615", "86566163", "86577411", "86584144",
+ "86584272", "86620568", "86724613", "86756002", "86768593",
"86772411",
+ "86781516", "86794389", "86805854", "86814600", "86835092",
"86874179",
+ "86876466", "86901193", "86987847", "86988080")
>
> random_values = sapply(seeds, function(x) {
+ set.seed(x)
+ y = runif(1, 17, 26)
+ return(y)
+ })
>
> summary(random_values)
Min. 1st Qu. Median Mean 3rd Qu. Max.
17.32 20.14 23.00 22.17 24.07 25.90
Can someone help understand what is going on?
Ubuntu
------
R version 3.4.0 (2017-04-21)
Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
Running under: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
Matrix products: default
BLAS: /usr/lib/libblas/libblas.so.3.6.0
LAPACK: /usr/lib/lapack/liblapack.so.3.6.0
locale:
[1] LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=C
[3] LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
[5] LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
[7] LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
[9] LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
[11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
attached base packages:
[1] parallel stats graphics grDevices utils datasets
methods base
other attached packages:
[1] RMySQL_0.10.8 DBI_0.6-1
[3] jsonlite_1.4 tidyjson_0.2.2
[5] optiRum_0.37.3 lubridate_1.6.0
[7] httr_1.2.1 gdata_2.18.0
[9] XLConnect_0.2-12 XLConnectJars_0.2-12
[11] data.table_1.10.4 stringr_1.2.0
[13] readxl_1.0.0 xlsx_0.5.7
[15] xlsxjars_0.6.1 rJava_0.9-8
[17] sqldf_0.4-10 RSQLite_1.1-2
[19] gsubfn_0.6-6 proto_1.0.0
[21] dplyr_0.5.0 purrr_0.2.4
[23] readr_1.1.1 tidyr_0.6.3
[25] tibble_1.3.0 tidyverse_1.1.1
[27] rBayesianOptimization_1.1.0 xgboost_0.6-4
[29] MLmetrics_1.1.1 caret_6.0-76
[31] ROCR_1.0-7 gplots_3.0.1
[33] effects_3.1-2 pROC_1.10.0
[35] pscl_1.4.9 lattice_0.20-35
[37] MASS_7.3-47 ggplot2_2.2.1
loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] splines_3.4.0 foreach_1.4.3 AUC_0.3.0
modelr_0.1.0
[5] gtools_3.5.0 assertthat_0.2.0 stats4_3.4.0
cellranger_1.1.0
[9] quantreg_5.33 chron_2.3-50 digest_0.6.10
rvest_0.3.2
[13] minqa_1.2.4 colorspace_1.3-2 Matrix_1.2-10
plyr_1.8.4
[17] psych_1.7.3.21 XML_3.98-1.7 broom_0.4.2
SparseM_1.77
[21] haven_1.0.0 scales_0.4.1 lme4_1.1-13
MatrixModels_0.4-1
[25] mgcv_1.8-17 car_2.1-5 nnet_7.3-12
lazyeval_0.2.0
[29] pbkrtest_0.4-7 mnormt_1.5-5 magrittr_1.5
memoise_1.0.0
[33] nlme_3.1-131 forcats_0.2.0 xml2_1.1.1
foreign_0.8-69
[37] tools_3.4.0 hms_0.3 munsell_0.4.3
compiler_3.4.0
[41] caTools_1.17.1 rlang_0.1.1 grid_3.4.0
nloptr_1.0.4
[45] iterators_1.0.8 bitops_1.0-6 tcltk_3.4.0
gtable_0.2.0
[49] ModelMetrics_1.1.0 codetools_0.2-15 reshape2_1.4.2
R6_2.2.0
[53] knitr_1.15.1 KernSmooth_2.23-15 stringi_1.1.5
Rcpp_0.12.11
Windows
-------
> sessionInfo()
R version 3.3.2 (2016-10-31)
Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
Running under: Windows >= 8 x64 (build 9200)
locale:
[1] LC_COLLATE=English_India.1252 LC_CTYPE=English_India.1252
LC_MONETARY=English_India.1252
[4] LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=English_India.1252
attached base packages:
[1] graphics grDevices utils datasets grid stats
methods base
other attached packages:
[1] bindrcpp_0.2 h2o_3.14.0.3 ggrepel_0.6.5
eulerr_1.1.0 VennDiagram_1.6.17
[6] futile.logger_1.4.3 scales_0.4.1 FinCal_0.6.3
xml2_1.0.0 httr_1.3.0
[11] wesanderson_0.3.2 wordcloud_2.5 RColorBrewer_1.1-2
htmltools_0.3.6 urltools_1.6.0
[16] timevis_0.4 dtplyr_0.0.1 magrittr_1.5
shiny_1.0.5 RODBC_1.3-14
[21] zoo_1.8-0 sqldf_0.4-10 RSQLite_1.1-2
gsubfn_0.6-6 proto_1.0.0
[26] gdata_2.17.0 stringr_1.2.0 XLConnect_0.2-12
XLConnectJars_0.2-12 data.table_1.10.4
[31] xlsx_0.5.7 xlsxjars_0.6.1 rJava_0.9-8
readxl_0.1.1 googlesheets_0.2.1
[36] jsonlite_1.5 tidyjson_0.2.1 RMySQL_0.10.9
RPostgreSQL_0.4-1 DBI_0.5-1
[41] dplyr_0.7.2 purrr_0.2.3 readr_1.1.1
tidyr_0.7.0 tibble_1.3.3
[46] ggplot2_2.2.0 tidyverse_1.0.0 lubridate_1.6.0
loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] gtools_3.5.0 assertthat_0.2.0 triebeard_0.3.0
cellranger_1.1.0 yaml_2.1.14
[6] slam_0.1-40 lattice_0.20-34 glue_1.1.1
chron_2.3-48 digest_0.6.12.1
[11] colorspace_1.3-1 httpuv_1.3.5 plyr_1.8.4
pkgconfig_2.0.1 xtable_1.8-2
[16] lazyeval_0.2.0 mime_0.5 memoise_1.0.0
tools_3.3.2 hms_0.3
[21] munsell_0.4.3 lambda.r_1.1.9 rlang_0.1.1
RCurl_1.95-4.8 labeling_0.3
[26] bitops_1.0-6 tcltk_3.3.2 gtable_0.2.0
reshape2_1.4.2 R6_2.2.0
[31] bindr_0.1 futile.options_1.0.0 stringi_1.1.2
Rcpp_0.12.12.1
[1]: http://stat.ethz.ch/R-manual/R-devel/library/stats/html/Unif
orm.html
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