R uses long double type for the accumulator (on platforms where it is available). This is also mentioned in ?sum:

"Where possible extended-precision accumulators are used, typically well supported with C99 and newer, but possibly platform-dependent."

Tomas

On 03/16/2018 06:08 PM, Pierre Chausse wrote:
My simple functions were to compare the result with the gfortran compiler sum() function.  I thought that the Fortran sum could not be less precise than R. I was wrong. I am impressed. The R sum does in fact match the result if we use the Kahan algorithm.

P.

I am glad to see that R sum() is more accurate than the gfortran compiler sum.

On 16/03/18 11:37 AM, luke-tier...@uiowa.edu wrote:
Install the gmp package, run your code, and then try this:

bu <- gmp::as.bigq(u)
bs4 <- bu[1] + bu[2] + bu[3] + bu[4] + bu[5]
s4 <- as.double(bs4)
s1 - s4
##  [1] 0
s2[[2]] - s4
##  [1] 7.105427e-15
s3 - s4
##  [1] 7.105427e-15
identical(s1, s4)
##  [1] TRUE

`bs4` is the exact sum of the binary rationals in your `u` vector;
`s4` is the closest double precision to this exact sum.

Looking at the C source code for sum() will show you that it makes
some extra efforts to get a more accurate sum than your simple
version.

Best,

luke

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, Pierre Chausse wrote:

Hi all,

I found a discrepancy between the sum() in R and either a sum done in C or Fortran for vector of just 5 elements. The difference is very small, but this is a very small part of a much larger numerical problem in which first and second derivatives are computed numerically. This is part of a numerical method course I am teaching in which I want to compare speeds of R versus Fortran (We solve a general equilibrium problem all numerically, if you want to know). Because of this discrepancy, the Jacobian and Hessian in R versus in Fortran are quite different, which results in the Newton method producing a different solution (for a given stopping rule). Since the solution computed in Fortran is almost identical to the analytical solution, I suspect that the sum in Fortran may be more accurate (That's just a guess).  Most of the time the sum produces identical results, but for some numbers, it is different. The following example, shows what happens:

set.seed(12233)
n <- 5
a <- runif(n,1,5)
e <- runif(n, 5*(1:n),10*(1:n))
s <- runif(1, 1.2, 4)
p <- runif(5, 3, 10)
x <- c(e[-5], (sum(e*p)-sum(e[-5]*p[-5]))/p[5])
u <- a^(1/s)*x^((s-1)/s)
dyn.load("sumF.so")

u[1] <- u[1]+.0001 ### If we do not add .0001, all differences are 0
s1 <- sum(u)
s2 <- .Fortran("sumf", as.double(u), as.integer(n), sf1=double(1),
              sf2=double(1))[3:4]
s3 <- .C("sumc", as.double(u), as.integer(n), sC=double(1))[[3]]

s1-s2[[1]] ## R versus compiler sum() (Fortran)

[1] -7.105427e-15

s1-s2[[2]] ## R versus manual sum (Fortran

[1] -7.105427e-15

s1-s3 ## R Versus manual sum in C

[1] -7.105427e-15

s2[[2]]-s2[[1]] ## manual sum versus compiler sum() (Fortran)

[1] 0

s3-s2[[2]] ## Fortran versus C

[1] 0

My sumf and sumc are

     subroutine sumf(x, n, sx1, sx2)
     integer i, n
     double precision x(n), sx1, sx2
     sx1 = sum(x)
     sx2 = 0.0d0
     do i=1,n
        sx2 = sx2+x(i)
     end do
     end

void sumc(double *x, int *n, double *sum)
{
 int i;
 double sum1 = 0.0;
 for (i=0; i< *n; i++) {
   sum1 += x[i];
 }
 *sum = sum1;
}

Can that be a bug?  Thanks.





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