> From: Thomas Yee [mailto:t....@auckland.ac.nz]
> 
> Thanks for the discussion. I do feel quite strongly that
> the variables should always be a part of a data frame. 

This seems pretty much a decision for R core, and I think it's useful to have 
raised the issue.

But I, er, feel strongly that strong feelings and 'always' are unsafe in a best 
practice argument. 

First, other folk with different use-cases or work practice may see 'best 
practice' quite differently. So I would pretty much always expect exceptions.

Second, for examples of capability, there are too many exceptions in this 
instance. For example:
glm() can take a two-column matrix as a single response variable. 
lm() can take a matrix as a response variable. 
lm() can take a complete data frame as a predictor (see ?stackloss)

None of these work naturally if everything is in a data frame, and some won’t 
work at all.

Steve E




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