I just have one question. From my very little (and negative) experience with the Java GUI for S-PLUS on *nix, one big problem is that it doesn't work when running S-PLUS remotely, either via X or VNC (unless the display is 8-bit): The GUI is running, but on screen I just see one big black rectangle. Would this be a problem for R as well? My impression was that that is totally the problem with Java. (BTW, I believe S-PLUS also installs and uses its private JRE.)
Best, Andy > From: Simon Urbanek > > On Feb 25, 2004, at 4:52 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > > > That's very interesting, but as you know Java installation > can be quite > > problematic. (It looks like the current Sun JVM 1.4.2_03 > has several > > issues, including not working with the R search engine, and > a warning > > on > > mozilla.org about its Windows plugin.) > > I'm aware of the problems caused by various JVM versions. > Although our > Java code is not directly affected, we plan to supply an optional > installer (for Windows) which will take care of the JVM and > install an > appropriate private JRE if necessary. > > > We bundled a version of Tcl/Tk with the R Windows binary to try to > > avoid > > compatibility issues, and even then I would prefer a native Windows > > solution for this one. > > I'm definitely not against a native editor. I don't want to > discourage > Chris, especially if he has already a working prototype. To the > contrary - one implicit point of my post was that we should stay in > contact, since we have implemented an editor as well and > thought about > the interface and the features, so we could exchange our experiences. > > I also wanted to say that we may want to talk about bigger > scope here. > My concern is that the number of scattered GUIs for various platforms > is increasing and each GUI has own interfaces, inconsistent with > others, making it hard to switch between GUIs. If one wants to add > functionality to the 'preferred' GUI then others don't have > any benefit > from the extension. A platform-independent GUI would solve this > problem, since an improvement would affect all platforms. Furthermore > using Java, it is possible to offer the quite powerful Java > widget set > to R users, seamlessly integrated into the GUI, thus allowing > users to > extend the GUI as they please - using R. (Besides, users could even > integrate their own Java code with R, but that's another > story...). By > now we also have an own, working Java graphics device allowing us to > achieve really tight integration of all aspects of R. I don't claim > that this should replace the Windows GUI, but I think it might be an > interesting, flexible alternative. I know that the project is all but > easy, nevertheless I believe that we got quite far by now. > > Simon > > --- > Simon Urbanek > Department of computer oriented statistics and data analysis > University of Augsburg > Universitätsstr. 14 > 86135 Augsburg > Germany > > Tel: +49-821-598-2236 > Fax: +49-821-598-2200 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://simon.urbanek.info > > ______________________________________________ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments,...{{dropped}} ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel