On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Henrik Bengtsson wrote:
Hmmm, to follow up on my own question; it is likely that I have misunderstood the update note. Now, I read it as
foo <- function(x, ...) UseMethod()
is deprecated and that
That _is_ what it said.
foo <- function(x, ...) UseMethod("foo", x)
( or foo <- function(x, ...) UseMethod("foo") )
should be used.
My concern/interpretation was that
bar <- function(...) UseMethod("bar")
is deprecated (where I saw "..." as the "arguments"). Reading ?UseMethod
I don't read that as being supported, and it does not work in S. `...' is not strictly an argument of a function, and is usually documented as `further arguments'.
more carefully (it still says) - "If it is called with just one argument, the class of the first argument of the enclosing function is used as 'object': unlike S this is the actual argument passed and not the current value of the object of that name." - I see that the above should still be fine.
So, now the note makes perfectly sense and it is *not* a "big step".
However, removing undocumented features can happen at any time. There is danger in using unusual constructions that may be allowed according to some particular reading of some of the documentation. In particular, consider the following
bar <- function(..., x) UseMethod("bar")
bar.foo <- function(..., x) print("foo")
x <- structure(1, class="foo")
bar(x) # arg is part of ...
bar(x=x) # arg is matched to x[1] "foo"
bar(1, x=x)Error in bar(1, x) : no applicable method for "bar"
bar <- function(y, x, ...) UseMethod("bar")
bar(x) # matches y
bar(x=x) # matches x
[1] "foo"
and I don't think there is any intention that such behaviour will necessarily continue (the last one does look like an error). The rules seem not to be written down clearly enough.
Best wishes
Henrik
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrik Bengtsson Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Rd] UseMethod call with no arguments
Dear R developers,
I will ask a very straightforward question concerning UseMethod's future, because people depending on my code wonder what will happen to it next.
In R v2.0.1 NEWS it says
o The undocumented use of UseMethod() with no argument is now formally deprecated.
and in the R v2.0.1 help(UseMethod) it says
'UseMethod' accepts a call with no arguments and tries to deduce the generic from the context. This was undocumented on the help page and is now deprecated. It is allowed but 'strongly discouraged' in S-PLUS.
The short question is: UseMethod() with no arguments is deprecated. Typically, after making something deprecated it will later become defunct. Do you have any plans for when this will happen? Are we talking months, years or in reality never? A version number?
Second, in R v2.0.0 NEWS there was nothing on making UseMethod() without arguments deprecated (the latest patched version I have is dated October 21st). As I believe a rather big step has been taken, I am somewhat surprised that I haven't seen it discussed. Was there a discussion taking place elsewhere that I missed, or is it an "obvious" update?
Finally, many thanks for making R (the software, the help, the community, ...) to what it is.
Best wishes
Henrik Bengtsson
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