On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:

Sorry. I should have included some data. I've attached a subset of my
data (50/192) cases in a Rdata file and have pasted it below.

Running anova I get the following:

anova(sr.reg.s4.nore)
                  Df Deviance Resid. Df    -2*LL P(>|Chi|)
NULL               NA       NA        45 33.89752        NA
as.factor(lifedxm)  2 2.438211        43 31.45931 0.2954943

That would just be an omnibus test right and should that first NULL NA
line be worrisome? What if I want to test specifically that CONTROL and
BIPOLAR were different and that MAJOR DEPRESSION and BIPOLAR were
different?

Construct a likelikehood ratio test for each hypothesis by fitting three models - two containing each term and one containing both - and comparing each simpler model to the fuller model.


I'll look at Hauck-Donner effect.

Thanks,
Chris

bip.surv.s
  age_sym4 sym4 lifedxm
1  16.12868    0   MAJOR
2  19.32649    0   MAJOR
3  16.55031    0 CONTROL
4  19.36756    0 CONTROL
5  16.09035    0   MAJOR
6  21.50582    0   MAJOR
7  16.36140    0   MAJOR
8  20.57221    0   MAJOR
9  16.45722    0 CONTROL
10 19.94524    0 CONTROL
11 15.79192    0   MAJOR
12 20.76660    0   MAJOR
13 16.15058    0 BIPOLAR
14 19.25804    0 BIPOLAR
15 17.36345    0   MAJOR
16 21.18001    0   MAJOR
17       NA    0 BIPOLAR
18       NA    0 BIPOLAR
19 16.31759    1   MAJOR
20 18.29706    0   MAJOR
21 16.40794    0   MAJOR
22 19.13758    0   MAJOR
23 16.19439    0 CONTROL
24 21.36893    0 CONTROL
25 15.89049    0 CONTROL
26 18.99795    0 CONTROL
27       NA    0 BIPOLAR
28 18.90486    0 BIPOLAR
29 16.36413    0   MAJOR
30 20.42710    0   MAJOR
31 16.65982    0   MAJOR
32 19.45791    0   MAJOR
33 16.64339    0 CONTROL
34 19.40041    0 CONTROL
35 15.37303    1 BIPOLAR
36 19.83847    0 BIPOLAR
37 15.42231    1   MAJOR
38 19.37029    0   MAJOR
39 15.06913    0   MAJOR
40 17.81520    0   MAJOR
41 15.50445    0 BIPOLAR
42 17.92197    0 BIPOLAR
43 15.34565    0 CONTROL
44 18.07529    0 CONTROL
45 15.59480    0 CONTROL
46 19.67420    0 CONTROL
47 14.78987    0   MAJOR
48 20.05476    0   MAJOR
49 14.78713    0   MAJOR
50 19.86858    0   MAJOR


On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 11:52 -0700, Charles C. Berry wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to fit the following model:

sr.reg.s4.nore <- survreg(Surv(age_sym4,sym4), as.factor(lifedxm),
data=bip.surv)

Next time include a reproducible example. i.e. something we can run.

Now, Google "Hauck Donner Effect" to understand why

        anova(sr.reg.s4.nore)

is preferred.

Chuck



Where age_sym4 is the age that a subject develops clinical thought
problems; sym4 is whether they develop clinical thoughts problems (0 or
1); and lifedxm is mother's diagnosis: BIPOLAR, MAJOR DEPRESSION, or
CONTROL.

I am interested in whether or not survival differs by this covariate.

When I run my model, I am getting the following output:

summary(sr.reg.s4.nore)

Call:
survreg(formula = Surv(age_sym4, sym4) ~ as.factor(lifedxm),
   data = bip.surv)
                          Value Std. Error     z       p
(Intercept)                4.037      0.455  8.86643
0.000000000000000000755
as.factor(lifedxm)CONTROL 14.844   4707.383  0.00315
0.997484052845082791450
as.factor(lifedxm)MAJOR    0.706      0.447  1.58037
0.114022774867277756905
Log(scale)                -0.290      0.267 -1.08493
0.277952437474223823521

Scale= 0.748

Weibull distribution
Loglik(model)= -76.3   Loglik(intercept only)= -82.6
        Chisq= 12.73 on 2 degrees of freedom, p= 0.0017
Number of Newton-Raphson Iterations: 21
n=186 (6 observations deleted due to missingness)


I am concerned about the p-value of 0.997 and the SE of 4707. I am
curious if it has to do with the fact that the CONTROL group doesn't
have a mixed response, meaning that all my subjects do not develop
clinical levels of thought problems and subsequently 'survive'.

table(bip.surv$sym4,bip.surv$lifedxm)

   BIPOLAR CONTROL MAJOR
 0      41      60    78
 1       7       0     6

Is there some sort of way that I can overcome this? Is my model
misspecified? Is this better suited to be run as a Bayesian model using
priors to overcome the lack of a mixed response?

Also, please cc me on an email as I am a digest subscriber.
Thanks,
Chris


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PhD student, Quantitative Methods in Education
MS student, Statistics
University of Minnesota
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PhD student, Quantitative Methods in Education
MS student, Statistics
University of Minnesota
192 Education Sciences Building
http://cddesjardins.wordpress.com


Charles C. Berry                            (858) 534-2098
                                            Dept of Family/Preventive Medicine
E mailto:cbe...@tajo.ucsd.edu               UC San Diego
http://famprevmed.ucsd.edu/faculty/cberry/  La Jolla, San Diego 92093-0901

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