On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, David Winsemius wrote:


On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Charles C. Berry wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, David Winsemius wrote:

> > On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Jarrett Byrnes wrote: > > > I have formulae with coefficents that I would like to update. However, > > I get some strange results. For example, see the following:
> > For the formula y ~ d+ 3*r+t
> > Did you really get meaningful results from that formula? Care to provide > an example? Maybe there is something more for me to learn. > > > > I want to add a variable p, so
> > >  update(y~d+0*r+t, .~.+p)
> > In formulas the "*" operator is an interaction creator. so you told R to > make 0 + r + 0:r. Probably not what you thought you were doing. So what > were you trying to do anyway? > > > produces
> > y ~ d + t + p - 1
> > Which at least explains why you got the -1 (which in R formulas is that > same as +0).
> > If the coefficient is not 0, but rather, something else - say, 3,
> > What do you think you are accomplishing when you put a scalar coefficient > in the formula? >
Maybe he wants

 ?I

Possibly, but wouldn't that just result in a "deflation" by a factor of 3 of the estimated coefficient if you wrappedI around that rem ... I(3*r) ?

Quite so. It is just one way (and I am not touting it) of rescaling a variable.

I
also wondered if he might need to be referred to:

?offset



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?? back 'atcha.

My '??' was intended for the OP, but your guess seems good to me.

Chuck


--
David.

Chuck

> > I get the following:
> > >  update(y~d+3*r+t, .~.+p)
> > Error in terms.formula(tmp, simplify = TRUE) :
> > invalid model formula in ExtractVars
> > >  Is there a way to do this,
> > > or a different call I should be trying? > > What you should be doing depends on what you want to happen. > > -- > > David


David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT

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