i test the null that the coin is fair (p(succ) = p(fail) = 0.5) with one trail and get a p-value of 1. actually i want to proof the alternative H that the estimate is different from 0.5, what certainly can not be aproven here. but in reverse the p-value of 1 says that i can 100% sure that the estimate of 0.5 is true (??) - that's the point that astonishes me.

thanks if anybody could clarify this for me,
kay

Zitat von Greg Snow <greg.s...@imail.org>:

Try thinking this one through from first principles, you are essentially saying that your null hypothesis is that you are flipping a fair coin and you want to do a 2-tailed test. You then flip the coin exactly once, what do you expect to happen? The p-value of 1 just means that what you saw was perfectly consistent with what is predicted to happen flipping a single time.

Does that help?

If not, please explain what you mean a little better.

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Statistical Data Center
Intermountain Healthcare
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hello,

i did several binomial tests and noticed for one sparse dataset that
binom.test(1,1,0.5) gives a p-value of 1 for the null, what i can't
quite
grasp. that would say that the a prob of 1/2 has p-value of 0 ?? - i
must be
wrong but can't figure out the right interpretation..

best,
kay





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