Hi Michael, S Ellison,

I do not actually understand what you want to achieve with the M
estimates of rlm in MASS, but why you do not give a try of lmrob in
'robustbase'. Please have a llok in the references (?lmrob) about the
advantages of MM estimators over the M estimators.

Best regards,
Valentin




On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:11 PM, S Ellison <s.elli...@lgcgroup.com> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: [RsR] How does "rlm" in R decide its "w" weights for
>> each IRLS iteration?
>> I am also confused about the manual:
>>
>>            a.  The input arguments:
>>
>> wt.method are the weights case weights (giving the relative
>> importance of case, so a weight of 2 means there are two of
>> these) or the inverse of the variances, so a weight of two
>> means this error is half as variable?
>
> When you give rlm weights (called 'weights', not 'w' on input, though you can 
> abbreviate to 'w'), you need to tell it which of these two possibilities you 
> used.
> If you gave it case numbers, say wt.method="case"; if you gave it inverse 
> variance weights, say wt.method="inv.var".
> The default is "inv.var".
>
>
>> The input argument "w" is used for the initial values of the
>> rlm IRLS weighting and the output value "w" is the converged "w".
> There is no input argument 'w' for rlm (see above).
> The output w are a  calculated using the psi function, so between 0 and 1.
> The effective weights for the final estimate would then be something like 
> w*weights, using the full name of the input argument (and if I haven't 
> forgotten a square root somewhere). At least, that would work for a simple 
> location estimate (eg rlm(x~1)).
>
>> If my understanding above is correct, how does "rlm" decide
>> its "w" for each IRLS iteration then?
> It uses the given psi functions to calculate the iterative weights based on 
> the scaled residuals.
>
>> Any pointers/tutorials/notes to the calculation of these
>> "w"'s in each IRLS iteration?
> Read the cited references for a detailed guide. Or, of course, MASS - the 
> package is, after all, intended to support the book, not replace it.
>
>
>
> S Ellison
>
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