On 13-01-20 5:54 PM, John Sorkin wrote:
Why are the help pages not right? The ... construct is a fundamental
part of the language syntax. Information about this fundamental
construct should be easily available!
Yes, I agree it should be easily available. Why does that mean it has
to be on the help pages? Maybe that manual on how to use the *complete*
help system would be useful after all.
Duncan Murdoch
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Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> 1/20/2013 5:06 PM >>>
On 13-01-20 2:56 PM, Steve Taylor wrote:
>> On 13-01-20 2:28 PM, Steve Taylor wrote:
>>>> From: Duncan Murdoch
>>>> Maybe we just need a manual on how to use the existing help
system. But
>>>> I suspect people who won't read the existing manuals won't read that
>>>> one, either.
>>>
>>> Duncan, I assume you're being facetious. Every R user soon learns
to use
>> help() and help.search() or their equivalents. We don't need a
manual to teach
>> that.
>>
>> There are other parts of the help system that you don't appear to know
>> about. Run help.start() for the main index page. help() is kind of a
>> shortcut to the section labelled "Packages". help.search() gets you to
>> "Search Engine & Keywords". There are 15 other headings to explore
as well.
>
> I know about them even tho I didn't mention them.
>
>>>
>>>>> Rolf Turner wrote:
>>>>>> The "help" facility is applicable to functions and data sets.
It is not
>>>>>> designed
>>>>>> or intended to give "help" with respect to R syntax (with the
exception of
>>>>>> the basic syntax of the operators --- unary and binary --- and the
>>>>>> associated
>>>>>> rules of precedence).
>>>
>>> Then why are there help pages ?":::", ?"for", ?"NA_character_",
?".C" and ?"??"
>> but not ?"..." ?!
>>
>> Those are all functions or other objects, while ... is not. There are
>> examples of topic aliases that are not objects, e.g. ?Syntax, but mostly
>> Rolf is right. Most discussion of the syntax is in the manuals.
>
> Nevertheless, help("...") is a reasonable thing for a user to do and
expect some help.
>
I agree it should do something. I think I'll have it lead to ?Reserved,
and add pointers to the manuals from there. I don't think the help()
pages are right for it.
Duncan Murdoch
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