Thanks for this guidance. In light of your advice I have reduced the titanic to a dingy by reducing the size of my sample to just 100 instances, making this an optimisation of 100 parameters. I am, however, seeing similar output when I output the function value at each evaluation. This is the tail of the information in the optout results structure
[1] 70104.64 [1] 70104.67 [1] 70104.64 [1] 70104.67 [1] 70104.64 [1] 70104.67 [1] 70104.64 [1] 70104.66 [1] 70104.64 [1] 70104.66 > optout $par [1] 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 [13] ... [97] 1.003 1.003 1.003 1.003 $value [1] 70104.4 $counts function gradient 501 NA $convergence [1] 1 $message NULL Can you or anyone suggest another optimisation routine I can use? I initially coded this into EXCEL and used the solver addin to do an optimisation of 200 parameters. R was my attempt to increase this number of parameters. I do not, unfortunately, have any derivative information. -- Stephen Clark, Second year PhD, School of Geography Tel : 0113 343 6707 Email : g...@leeds.ac.uk Web : http://www.geog.leeds.ac.uk/people/s.clark -----Original Message----- From: Prof J C Nash (U30A) [mailto:nas...@uottawa.ca] Sent: 13 July 2013 13:07 To: r-help@r-project.org; Stephen Clark Subject: [R] Optimisation does not optimise! Considering that I devised the code initially on a computer with only 8K bytes for program and data, and it appears that your problem has 10000 parameters, I'm surprised you got any output. I suspect the printout is the BUILD phase where each weight is being adjusted in turn by the same shift. Don't try to move the Titanic on a pram. If you work out a gradient function, you can likely use Rcgmin (even though I wrote original CG in optim(), not recommended). spg from BB may also work OK. This problem is near linear, so there are other approaches. JN ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.