Dear all I have ordinal data (from a questionnaire with 4 levels) for 2 groups (30 subjects each) and 2 timepoints. So I used a cumulative link mixed model to fit the data (nr = subject number).
mod_FV<-clmm2(FV~GruppeVerbelendung+Timepoint,random=nr,data=data,Hess=TRUE,nAGQ=10,na.action=na.omit) mod_FV1<-clmm2(FV~GruppeVerbelendung,random=nr,data=data,Hess=TRUE,nAGQ=10,na.action=na.omit) For some questions (e.g. FV) I had the following output with NANs instead of p-values Call: clmm2(location = FV ~ GruppeVerbelendung * Timepoint, random = nr, data = data, na.action = na.omit, Hess = TRUE, nAGQ = 10) Random effects: Var Std.Dev nr 5.881958e-07 0.0007669392 Location coefficients: Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|) GruppeVerbelendung1 -0.0178 NaN NaN NA Timepoint1 18.6316 NaN NaN NA GruppeVerbelendung1:Timepoint1 0.3505 NaN NaN NA No scale coefficients Threshold coefficients: Estimate Std. Error z value 1|2 20.7741 NaN NaN 2|3 20.9486 NaN NaN log-likelihood: -24.01783 AIC: 60.03566 Condition number of Hessian: 5479162.40 (4 observations deleted due to missingness) Warnmeldung: In sqrt(diag(vc)) : NaNs wurden erzeugt However when comparing the models (mod_FV, mod_FV1) I obtain a usable result (p-val) even though the models seem not to be a good fit (high AIC and condition number of Hessian). anova(mod_FV,mod_FV1) Likelihood ratio tests of cumulative link models Response: FV Model Resid. df -2logLik Test Df LR stat. Pr(Chi) 1 GruppeVerbelendung | | 112 58.44384 2 GruppeVerbelendung + Timepoint | | 111 27.78259 1 vs 2 1 30.66125 3.072406e-08 What could be the problem? Timepoint 1 was always scored with level 1 (60 of 60 subjects had scored 1) and during timepoint 2 subjects scored level 1-3. Might it be a problem that I only have 1 type of scoring level for timepoint 1? Can I use the results obtained by Likelihod ratio test for clm even if the model was not a good fit? What could I do instead? Thank you so much for your help and all the best Caroline [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.