Yes

It could be. But anyway, if you wanted to melt your frame and be sure to have 
norm column added to months column you shall use

melt(dataset, id.vars=NULL, na.rm=TRUE)

construction.

Without it and considering data you sent I get

> head(dd.m0)
                norm variable value
1   45.8713463281901  januari  38.1
2 24.047250681782984  januari  32.4
3 3.7533684144746324  januari  34.5
4 38.594241119279324  januari  20.7
5 26.391897460120358  januari  21.5
6 61.746470001194638  januari  23.1
...
without this id.vars=NULL parameter.

Cheers
Petr

PS. Keep your post to Rhelp - others may learn from it and anothers can provide 
you with more elaborated explanation.


From: Joachim Audenaert [mailto:joachim.audena...@pcsierteelt.be]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:23 AM
To: PIKAL Petr
Subject: RE: [R] melt function chooses wrong id variable with large datasets

Hello,

I upgraded R tot version 3.1.3 and now everything in the script works 
perfectly. Could the troubles be due to the fact that I was running an older 
version?

Met vriendelijke groeten - With kind regards,

Joachim Audenaert
onderzoeker gewasbescherming - crop protection researcher

PCS | proefcentrum voor sierteelt - ornamental plant research
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From:        PIKAL Petr <petr.pi...@precheza.cz<mailto:petr.pi...@precheza.cz>>
To:        Joachim Audenaert 
<joachim.audena...@pcsierteelt.be<mailto:joachim.audena...@pcsierteelt.be>>
Cc:        "r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>" 
<r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>>
Date:        16/04/2015 13:41
Subject:        RE: [R]  melt function chooses wrong id variable with large 
datasets
________________________________



Hi

With this dataset I get

> dd.m0<-melt(dataset, na.rm=T)
Using norm as id variables
> head(dd.m0)
                norm variable value
1   45.8713463281901  januari  38.1
2 24.047250681782984  januari  32.4
3 3.7533684144746324  januari  34.5
4 38.594241119279324  januari  20.7
5 26.391897460120358  januari  21.5
6 61.746470001194638  januari  23.1
>
or

dd.m<-melt(dataset, id.vars=NULL, na.rm=T)

> head(dd.m)
  variable value
1  januari  38.1
2  januari  32.4
3  januari  34.5
4  januari  20.7
5  januari  21.5
6  januari  23.1
> tail(dd.m)
    variable              value
255     norm  4.856812959269508
256     norm 5.3982910143166514
257     norm 46.553976273304215
258     norm 17.566272518985429
259     norm 20.552451905814117
260     norm 61.894775704479279

The latter will put norm to the same column as months. Is it intended?

Maybe you want

> dd.m1<-melt(dataset[,-13], na.rm=T)
No id variables; using all as measure variables
> head(dd.m1)
  variable value
1  januari  38.1
2  januari  32.4
3  januari  34.5
4  januari  20.7
5  januari  21.5
6  januari  23.1
> tail(dd.m1)
    variable value
235 december  20.7
236 december  30.9
237 december  36.2
238 december  21.0
239 december  20.2
240 december  21.3

Cheers
Petr

From: Joachim Audenaert [mailto:joachim.audena...@pcsierteelt.be]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:13 PM
To: PIKAL Petr
Cc: r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>
Subject: RE: [R] melt function chooses wrong id variable with large datasets

Hello,

This is a part of my dataset:

structure(list(januari = c(38.1, 32.4, 34.5, 20.7, 21.5, 23.1,
29.7, 36.6, 36.1, 20.6, 20.4, 30.1, 38.7, 41.4, 37, 36, 37, 38,
23, 26.7), februari = c(31.5, 36.2, 38.2, 26.4, 20.9, 21.5, 30.2,
33.4, 32.6, 22.2, 21.7, 30, 35.7, 32.8, 39.3, 25.5, 23, 19.9,
21.3, 20.8), maart = c(34.2, 27, 24.2, 19.9, 19.7, 21.5, 30.6,
30, 19, 19.6, 20.6, 23.6, 17.9, 17.3, 21.4, 24.1, 20.9, 30.1,
32.6, 21.3), april = c(26.3, 29.6, 30.3, 23.6, 28.4, 20.7, 24.1,
27.3, 23.2, 18.3, 24.6, 27.4, 20.4, 18.1, 25.2, 19.8, 21, 23.7,
19.6, 18.1), mei = c(23.7, 24, 17.2, 23.2, 25.2, 17.2, 16, 15.6,
13.4, 16, 16.8, 14.6, 19.4, 21, 19.5, 18.5, 13.3, 13.7, 14.3,
14.1), juni = c(17.7, 14.2, 16.6, 15.7, 13.7, 14.7, 13.1, 12.9,
15.4, 11.9, 15.2, 15.3, 16.5, 16.1, 11.7, 11.2, 11.5, 10.8, 16.1,
14.8), juli = c(15.7, 14.5, 10.8, 10.5, 13.4, 12.2, 13.2, 13,
12.4, 13.1, 9.8, 10.5, 13.4, 11, 13.1, 15, 16.7, 16.1, 18.2,
15.7), augustus = c(12.9, 12.8, 15.2, 14.5, 17.2, 14.5, 14.4,
11, 13.1, 13.6, 14.6, 12.7, 13.6, 12.7, 15.5, 17.4, 15.2, 14.2,
17.7, 19.2), september = c(15.6, 15.5, 15.9, 15.1, 16, 19.4,
21.5, 23.7, 18.7, 23.8, 18, 16.2, 18.5, 20.6, 18.3, 22.5, 26.9,
19.4, 15.9, 20.5), oktober = c(21.4, 20.8, 14, 17, 23, 26.4,
19.6, 22.7, 26.9, 14.7, 15.2, 19.8, 26.9, 20.2, 14.3, 14.8, 18.5,
21.7, 21.4, 21.8), november = c(24.7, 26.2, 29, 21.6, 17.1, 16.9,
19.1, 24.7, 25.4, 19.8, 18.2, 16.3, 17, 17.7, 15.5, 14.7, 15.8,
19.9, 20.4, 23.3), december = c(19.8, 27, 21, 33, 22.6, 28.3,
21.1, 19, 17.3, 27, 30.2, 24.8, 17.9, 17.9, 20.7, 30.9, 36.2,
21, 20.2, 21.3), norm = c("45.8713463281901", "24.047250681782984",
"3.7533684144746324", "38.594241119279324", "26.391897460120358",
"61.746470001194638", "6.8321020448487992", "11.933109250115226",
"51.951891096493924", "37.424611852237945", "5.1587836676942374",
"36.552835044409434", "31.781209673851027", "29.09146215582853",
"4.856812959269508", "5.3982910143166514", "46.553976273304215",
"17.566272518985429", "20.552451905814117", "61.894775704479279"
)), .Names = c("januari", "februari", "maart", "april", "mei",
"juni", "juli", "augustus", "september", "oktober", "november",
"december", "norm"), row.names = c(NA, 20L), class = "data.frame")

I transform my dataset with the following script:

y <- melt(dataset,na.rm=TRUE)
variable <- y[,1]
value <- y[,2]

and can then perform a levene test as follows:

LEVENE <- leveneTest(value~variable,y)

When the dataset is small, lets say less than 100 values per column everything 
works great. I get the message:

No id variables; using all as measure variables

When the dataset is much bigger I get the following message

Using norm as id variables, why does this function pick norm as id variable? 
and how can I tell R that each column title is my variable


Met vriendelijke groeten - With kind regards,

Joachim Audenaert
onderzoeker gewasbescherming - crop protection researcher

PCS | proefcentrum voor sierteelt - ornamental plant research

________________________________


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From:        PIKAL Petr <petr.pi...@precheza.cz<mailto:petr.pi...@precheza.cz>>
To:        Joachim Audenaert 
<joachim.audena...@pcsierteelt.be<mailto:joachim.audena...@pcsierteelt.be>>, 
"r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>" 
<r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>>
Date:        16/04/2015 12:13
Subject:        RE: [R]  melt function chooses wrong id variable with large 
datasets

________________________________




Hi

There is something weird with your data and melt function.

AFAIK melt does not use first row as id.variables.

What is result of

str(dataset)

Instead of

melt(dataset,id.vars=dataset[1,], na.rm=TRUE)

melt expects something like

melt(dataset, id.vars=c("norm, "jaar"), na.rm=TRUE)

If you want more specific answer you shall show us part of your data, 
preferably copy output of

dput(dataset[1:20,])

into your mail.

Cheers
Petr

> -----Original Message-----
> From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Joachim
> Audenaert
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:37 AM
> To: r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>
> Subject: [R] melt function chooses wrong id variable with large
> datasets
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm using a large dataset consisting of 2 groups of data, 2 columns in
> excel with a header (group name) and 15 000 rows of data. I would like
> like to compare this data, so I transform my dataset with the melt
> function to get 1 column of data and 1 column of ID variables, then I
> can apply different statistical tests. With small datasets this works
> great, the melt function automatically chooses the name in row 1 as ID
> variable and melts the data, thus giving me a matrix with all ID
> variables in column one and the data accordingly in column 2.
> With this big dataset however it chooses the whole first column as ID
> variables in stead of the first row. Is there a reason why this happens
> and how can I make sure the first row is chosen as ID variabele and the
> lower rows as data?
>
> If I specify that I want the first row to be the id variable I also get
> error.
>
> melt(dataset,id.vars=dataset[1,], na.rm=TRUE)
>
> Error: id variables not found in data: norm, jaar
>
> Are there alternative ways to create a good reshaped dataset?
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten - With kind regards,
>
> Joachim Audenaert
> onderzoeker gewasbescherming - crop protection researcher
>
> PCS | proefcentrum voor sierteelt - ornamental plant research
>
> Schaessestraat 18, 9070 Destelbergen, Belgi
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