Dear Joyaa, > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > Sent: September 5, 2015 2:07 AM > To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows > 10 > > Dear John, > > You mention, "the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R > Commander")". > > Apologies for my dumbness, but the manual I did read - and found helpful - > before posting is clearly a different one. A 43 page pdf with no section > numbers nor any reference to the Workspace. (Package ‘Rcmdr’ August 19, > 2015 Version 2.2-0 Date 2015-08-14 Title R Commander ....// snip > //... Author John Fox [aut, cre], Milan Bouchet-Valat [aut], ..... // > snip //").
I'm at a loss to explain why your copy of the manual has no section numbers, particularly since the version and date you cite are correct; as I've just confirmed, the PDF manual distributed with version 2.2-0 of the Rcmdr does indeed have section numbers, starting with "1 Introduction" near the top of the first page. In case it's somehow ambiguous, this is section 1. I'll send you a copy of the PDF separately, so as not to waste bandwidth on the r-help list. > > Since the Help page you refer to doesn't seem to be here I'm sorry, but I don't recall referring to a help page and I don't see a reference to a help page in this thread. Can you remind me what I apparently said? Best, John > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help or here > http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/, I would be very grateful for an extra > direction > and apologise for getting a bit lost amongst all the possibilities. > > Kind regards, Joyaa (feeling like a fish in a new ocean). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fox, John > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:07 AM > To: Joyaa Antares > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows > 10 > > Dear Joyaa, > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM > > To: Fox, John > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > Windows 10 > > > > Dear John, > > > > Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save > > the > > workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being > > part > > way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the > > right > > thing to do. Clearly not! > > It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr manual > (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See Section 6.5. > > I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R > Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing work -- > but it > my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new users of R, > whether or not they're using the R Commander. > > > So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's > > script file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with > > preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, > > output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. > > If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this. > > You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a > programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular > programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script > tab > has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, and > it offers > to save the script when you exit. > > You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr > into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr > Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The > Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents. See Sections 6.1 and 6.2 > of the manual. > > Best, > John > > > > > Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fox, John > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM > > To: Joyaa Antares > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > Windows > > 10 > > > > Dear Joyaa, > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > > > Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM > > > To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca> > > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > > Windows 10 > > > > > > Dear John, Dear List, > > > > > > Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and > > > reinstalling again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you > > > delete the > > package > > > library? > > > > You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as > > administrator and that you took all defaults. In that case, the > > installed packages will be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . > > Just delete the library directory, which will still be there after R > > 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do recommend, by the way, that, for using the > > Rcmdr, you install R with the SDI rather than the default MDI, but > > that doesn't explain your difficulties. > > > > > > > > I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the > > whole > > > things > > > as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two > > install > > > attempts > > > were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via > > > Cambridge, > > UK. > > > > > > Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival > > plug-in > > > it > > > worked fine. > > > > If you said that before, I missed it. > > > > > I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed > > > the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload > > > the plugin from R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R > > > Commander, but on opting > > for > > > "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly. > > > > Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. > > My guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved > > workspace is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and > > try again. > > > > If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr > > menus (or if closing R directly, don't save the workspace). > > > > I hope this helps, > > John > > > > ----------------------------- > > John Fox, Professor > > McMaster University > > Hamilton, Ontario > > Canada L8S 4M4 > > Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox > > > > > > > > > > My thanks to you and the list for your time. Joyaa (Gold Coast, > > > Queensland, > > > Australia) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Fox, John > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM > > > To: Joyaa Antares > > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > > Windows > > > 10 > > > > > > Dear Joyaa, > > > > > > I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted > > > my package library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and > > > RcmdrPlugin.survival packages. > > > I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the > > > default MDI for Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source > > > of your problem. I used the 0- Cloud mirror, both for R > > > 3.2.2 and for packages. > > > > > > I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works > > > perfectly fine for me. > > > > > > You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything > > > else > > you > > > can > > > add? > > > > > > Best, > > > John > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > John Fox, Professor > > > McMaster University > > > Hamilton, Ontario > > > Canada L8S 4M4 > > > web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa > > > Antares [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > > > Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM > > > To: r-help@r-project.org > > > Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > Windows > > > 10 > > > > > > Hello r-help, > > > > > > I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with > > Windows > > > 10. > > > > > > On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this > > error > > > message: > > > > > > Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : > > > [tcl] invalid command name "configure". > > > > > > The lead-up to this was: > > > > > > * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find. > > > * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install > > > * Opened the .exe file as Administrator > > > * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator > > > * Updated all packages > > > * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival > > > * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console > > > * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed > > > * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu > > > * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn't > > > open properly (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and > > > this wouldn't close properly either. The error message as above > > > showed in the console. > > > > > > I haven't posted to the list before and would be very grateful for > > help. > > > Thank you. Joyaa > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > = ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.