Does that mean I could poison the Archive by posting IP on this list, or poison 
someone else's code if they use some of mine that I post here?

B.



On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Spencer Graves 
<spencer.gra...@effectivedefense.org> wrote:

>      It's not clear if the TPP would ever directly impact the R project.  
> However, it could impact many R users.
> 
> 
>            * For example, if someone decides that something you have on the 
> web includes material for which they claim copyright, the TPP allows them to 
> order your Internet Service Provider to take down your web site.   No court 
> order is required.  No proof is required.  If you want to contest, the 
> dispute might go through the "Investor-State Dispute Settlement" process, 
> where the issue will be judged by people essentially selected by 
> multinational businesses. (Article 18, Section J.)  [Phillip Morris Tobacco 
> Company has already sued Uruguay, Australia and Norway over packaging 
> requirements that has actually been effective in reducing tobacco consumption 
> in those countries.  Former New York City Mayor Bloomberg has been paying 
> legal fees for Uruguay, because they can't afford the legal fees.  Tobacco is 
> explicitly excluded from the TPP, but similar suits could be brought over 
> other types of products or services.]  This could include some algorithm 
> you've coded into R, if some company decides you're using their copyrighted 
> algorithm or whatever without paying for it.  Current US copyright law covers 
> "derivative works", which could be almost anything.  This sounds far fetched. 
>  However, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) sued four 
> college students for close to $100 billion, because their improvements of 
> search engines made it easier for people in a university intranet to find 
> copyrighted music placed by others in their "public" folder.  The attorney 
> uncle of one of those four told his nephew that it would cost him a million 
> dollars to defend himself, and there would be no way he could recoup that 
> money even if he won.  In negotiations, they asked the student how much money 
> he had.  He said he had saved $12,000 for college.  They took it. Major media 
> organizations similarly sued Venture Capitalists who funded Napster and 
> Lawyers who advised MP3.com that they had reasonable grounds to that MP3's 
> business model was legal.  The Napster funders and MP3 lawyers similarly knew 
> they could not afford to defend themselves and settled.  [Wikipedia, "Free 
> Culture (book)";  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Culture_(book)]
> 
> 
>      Other parts of the TPP are highly undemocratic but may not relate as 
> closely to R as the provision I just mentioned.
> 
> 
>            * The provision that worries me the most is Article 18.78 on 
> “Trade Secrets”.  This broadly criminalizes “unauthorized and willful 
> disclosure of a trade secret”.  This doesn't sound bad, except that a "trade 
> secret" could include documentation of criminal behavior.  This substantially 
> increases risks for journalists and whistleblowers.  For example The Guardian 
> could be sued for having published documents released by Ed Snowden -- even 
> though what Snowden did was expose perjury by James Clapper, US Director of 
> National Intelligence. 
> (http://tumblr.fightforthefuture.org/post/132605875893/final-tpp-text-confirms-worst-fears-shadowy)
> 
> 
>            * Article 18.63 "forces the most draconian parts of the U.S.’s 
> broken copyright system on the rest of the world without expanding 
> protections for fair use and free speech. This section requires countries to 
> enforce copyright until 70 years after the creator’s death. This will keep an 
> enormous amount of information, art, and creativity out of the public domain 
> for decades longer than necessary, and allow for governments to abuse 
> copyright laws to censor online content at will, since so much of it will be 
> copyrighted for so long." 
> (http://tumblr.fightforthefuture.org/post/132605875893/final-tpp-text-confirms-worst-fears-shadowy)
>  
> 
> 
>            * The TPP could also make the Internet less secure.  For example, 
> the Electronic Frontier Foundation says that, "With no good rationale, the 
> agreement would outlaw a country from adopting rules for the sale of software 
> that include mandatory code review or the release of source code. This could 
> inhibit countries from addressing pressing information security problems, 
> such as widespread and massive vulnerability in closed-source home routers." 
> (www.eff.org/issues/tpp)
> 
> 
>      I hope you find this interesting and useful even if some of it is off 
> topic.
> 
> 
>      Spencer Graves
> 
> 
> On 2/4/2016 5:15 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Quite a while ago I went to talk (I think it may have been at an NZSA
>> conference) given by the great Ross Ihaka.  I forget the details but
>> my vague recollection was that it involved a technique for automatic
>> choice of some sort of smoothing parameter involved in a graphical
>> display. Apparently Ross's ideas related peripherally to some patented
>> technique owned by Texas Instruments, and TI was causing problems for
>> Ross.  He seemed to be of the opinion that the TPP would make matters
>> worse.
>> 
>> I suspect he's right.  It will make matters worse for everyone except
>> the rich bastards in the multinationals, in all respects.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> Rolf
>> 
> 
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