I never used the groupedData structure, precisely because I found it confusing, but I think:
1. group is *not* a (random) grouping variable; it's a fixed effect covariate. 2. so I believe your groupedData call should be: GD<- groupedData(value~time|SS,data=data1,outer = group) Of course, as you did not give us your data in a convenient form, I can't check. Please let us know if this is wrong, however, as I don't want to mislead others down the primrose path. Cheers, Bert Bert Gunter "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and sticking things into it." -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip ) On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, John Sorkin <jsor...@grecc.umaryland.edu> wrote: > I apologize for sending this message again. The last time I sent it, the > subject line was not correct. I have corrected the subject line. > > I am trying to run a repeated measures analysis of data in which each subject > (identified by SS) has 3 observations at three different times (0, 3, and 6). > There are two groups of subjects (identified by group). I want to know if the > response differs in the two groups. I have tried to used lme. Lme tell me if > there is a time effect, but does not tell me if there is a group effect. Once > I get this to work I will want to know if there is a significant group*time > effect. Can someone tell me how to get an estimate for group. Once I get > that, I believe getting an estimate for group*time should be straight > forward. The code I have tired to use follows. > Thank you, > John > >> # This is my data >> data1 > SS group time value baseline > 1 1 Cont 0 9.000000 9.000000 > 2 2 Cont 0 3.000000 3.000000 > 3 3 Cont 0 8.000000 8.000000 > 4 4 Inte 0 5.690702 5.690702 > 5 5 Inte 0 7.409493 7.409493 > 6 6 Inte 0 7.428018 7.428018 > 7 1 Cont 3 13.713148 9.000000 > 8 2 Cont 3 9.841107 3.000000 > 9 3 Cont 3 12.843236 8.000000 > 10 4 Inte 3 9.300899 5.690702 > 11 5 Inte 3 10.936389 7.409493 > 12 6 Inte 3 12.358499 7.428018 > 13 1 Cont 6 18.952390 9.000000 > 14 2 Cont 6 15.091527 3.000000 > 15 3 Cont 6 17.578812 8.000000 > 16 4 Inte 6 12.325499 5.690702 > 17 5 Inte 6 15.486513 7.409493 > 18 6 Inte 6 18.284965 7.428018 >> # Create a grouped data object. SS identifies each subject >> # group indentifies group, intervention or control. >> GD<- groupedData(value~time|SS/group,data=data1,FUN=mean) >> # Fit the model. >> fit1 <- lme(GD) >> cat("The results give information about time, but does not say if the gruops >> are different\n") > The results give information about time, but does not say if the gruops are > different >> summary(fit1) > Linear mixed-effects model fit by REML > Data: GD > AIC BIC logLik > 74.59447 81.54777 -28.29724 > > Random effects: > Formula: ~time | SS > Structure: General positive-definite > StdDev Corr > (Intercept) 1.3875111 (Intr) > time 0.2208046 -0.243 > > Formula: ~time | group %in% SS > Structure: General positive-definite > StdDev Corr > (Intercept) 1.3875115 (Intr) > time 0.2208051 -0.243 > Residual 0.3800788 > > Fixed effects: value ~ time > Value Std.Error DF t-value p-value > (Intercept) 6.747442 0.8135067 11 8.294268 0 > time 1.588653 0.1326242 11 11.978601 0 > Correlation: > (Intr) > time -0.268 > > Standardized Within-Group Residuals: > Min Q1 Med Q3 Max > -1.11412947 -0.44986535 0.08034174 0.34615610 1.29943887 > > Number of Observations: 18 > Number of Groups: > SS group %in% SS > 6 6 > > > >> > John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D. > Professor of Medicine > Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics > University of Maryland School of Medicine Division of Gerontology and > Geriatric Medicine > Baltimore VA Medical Center > 10 North Greene Street > GRECC (BT/18/GR) > Baltimore, MD 21201-1524 > (Phone) 410-605-7119 > (Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing) > > Confidentiality Statement: > This email message, including any attachments, is for ...{{dropped:12}} ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.