I despair!!!

But this discourse has gone on far too long already, so I shall say no more.

cheers,

Rolf

On 25/07/19 10:33 AM, Tierney, Luke wrote:
Thanks Roy -- I was about to write along the same lines.

Best,

luke

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal via R-help wrote:

Hi Rolf:

As they say,  do read the posting guide:

Good manners: Remember that customs differ. Some people are very direct. Others 
surround everything they say with hedges and apologies. Be tolerant. Rudeness 
is never warranted, but sometimes `read the manual’ is the appropriate 
response. Don’t waste time discussing such matters on the list. Ad hominem 
comments are absolutely out of place.


-Roy



On Jul 24, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Rolf Turner <r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote:


On 25/07/19 4:36 AM, Weiwen Ng, MPH wrote:

Here's one way to phrase your reply:
"I'd recommend you search Google. For example, the search string
"proprietary use GPL" produces one hit that's clearly relevant to you:

<SNIP>

This method is more neutrally worded. It doesn't insult the original
poster. It doesn't assume the poster had bad intent.
Instead, you chose to phrase it thus:
"Your internet skills are pathetic. Search Google for "proprietary use gpl"
and the first hit is ...  Note that there are (at least) three obvious
alternatives if there is any question in your case ...   I think your
desperation to steal the hard work of the various R contributors seems
quite odious."
Think about the overall tone of your post. Consider also that someone who
agrees with you substantive argument said that your comments were "often
(almost always?) a bit rough about the edges."

Yeah, but Jeff's rough-about-the-edges phrasing is much more colourful, and colourful is 
*GOOD*.  There is far too much bland "Shhhh. We *mustn't* offend anybody" 
content in current discourse.  Tell it like it is!  Ripley into people!  If the recipient 
can't take the heat, he or she should get out of the kitchen!

See also fortunes::fortune(87).

cheers,

Rolf Turner

P.S.  Jeff makes a huge and extremely useful contribution to R-help.  He gives 
generously of time and effort to solve beginners' problems.  They should 
appreciate the time and effort and not whinge about being offended.

R. T.

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