On 17/08/2020 9:20 a.m., Ivan Calandra wrote:
I don't want to relight the fire, but I was wondering about that
statement from John C Frain:
"If you use RStudio and do not install any of the RStudio packages".
I guess you mean that some packages are bundled with RStudio. I had
never noticed any optional packages during the installation of
RStudio... Is there a way to identify (and delete, if wished) these
packages?
Or have I misunderstood?
When you are running RStudio, your search list will include
"tools:rstudio". It's not exactly a package, it's an environment
containing functions used by the RStudio front end. You can delete it
and R will still work fine, but I'd expect some parts of the GUI to stop
working.
Some RStudio actions (e.g. clicking the "knit" button) will prompt you
to install packages if they are not found. I don't think any of them
are "bundled" with RStudio, but I might be wrong about that.
RStudio definitely installs Pandoc and maybe some other packages.
(These aren't R packages, they are packages in a more general sense.)
Certainly you should be able to delete Pandoc if you have permissions to
install it; that may break RMarkdown if you don't have another copy
somewhere.)
To identify what R packages got installed, just run
"installed.packages()" before and after installing RStudio, and look for
differences.
Duncan Murdoch
Thank you!
Ivan
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On 16/08/2020 20:20, John C Frain wrote:
On Sun 16 Aug 2020 at 06:32, Jeff Newmiller <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us>
wrote:
a) Read about it yourself. It is a legal definition.
b) Don't "correct" me with misinformation you are clearly inventing.
RStudio the software does not "introduce people to a modified version of
R." Each user has to opt in to that "modified" experience by explicitly
installing each of the the many CRAN packages that various employees of
RStudio have created and all of which can (to my knowledge) be used without
installing the RStudio IDE at all. Yes, a bunch of them can be grabbed at
once by installing the tidyverse package, but that is also a choice made by
users and by instructors struggling to deal with students who have a hard
time with Excel much less functional programming. But RStudio is an R IDE.
There are a lot of packages sponsored by RStudio that I find redundant and
slow, but portraying the RStudio company or the IDE as inherently "not R"
just because newbies like the IDE and the packages they sponsor, and who
end up confusing R with RStudio even though they have to install both, is
small-minded and biased
To clarify: If you use RStudio and do not install any of the RStudio
packages, R in RStudio is the same R as if you were running it from the
command line. I would think that many users find command completion,
access to help files, project management Etc. useful. Nobody is asking
anyone to install the RStudio packages. I do sometimes but not always and
have found them useful. Jeff is 100% correct.
On August 15, 2020 9:10:34 PM PDT, Abby Spurdle <spurdl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:11 PM Jeff Newmiller
<jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
It is a public benefit corporation
Seriously?
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:11 PM Jeff Newmiller
<jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
used to introduce people to R
Correction, it introduces people to a modified version of R.
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