Hi All,

I beg to differ with Ravi Varadhan's perspective. While it is true that
principal component analysis does not itself do variable selection, it is an
important method for pointing the way to what to select. This is what the
methods in the subselect package rely on. (One of its authors was I believe
a student of Jolliffe's). For a modern perspective on this, see the
following paper:

Debashis Paul, Eric Bair, Trevor Hastie and Robert Tibshirani:
"Preconditioning" for feature selection and regression in high-dimensional
problems We show that supervised principal components followed by a variable
selection procedure is an effective approach for variable selection in very
high dimension. Annals of Statistics 36(4), 2008, 1595-1618.

http://www-stat.stanford.edu/~hastie/Papers/Preconditioning_Annals.pdf

Regards, Mark.


Ravi Varadhan wrote:
> 
> Principal components analysis does "dimensionality reduction" but NOT
> "variable reduction".  However, Jolliffe's 2004 book on PCA does discuss
> the
> problem of selecting a subset of variables, with the goal of representing
> the internal variation of original multivariate vector as well as possible
> (see Section 6.3 of that book).  I do not think that these methods can
> handle missing data.  The most important issue is to think about the goal
> of
> variable reduction and then choose an appropriate optimality criterion for
> achieving that goal.  In most instances of variable selection, the
> criterion
> that is optimized is never explicitly considered.
> 
> Ravi.
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> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Harsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> I am trying to carry out variable reduction. I do not have information 
>> about the dependent variable, and have only the X variables as it 
>> were.
>> In selecting variables I wish to keep, I have considered the following
> criteria.
>> 1) Percentage of missing value in each column/variable
>> 2) Variance of each variable, with a cut-off value.
>>
>> I recently came across Weka and found that there is an RWeka package 
>> which would allow me to make use of Weka through R.
>> Weka provides a "Genetic search" variable reduction method, but I 
>> could not find its R code implementation in the RWeka Pdf file on 
>> CRAN.
>>
>> I looked for other R packages that allow me to do variable reduction 
>> without considering a dependent variable. I came across 'dprep'
>> package but it does not have a Windows implementation.
>>
>> Moreover, I have a dataset that contains continuous and categorical 
>> variables, some categorical variables having 3 levels, 10 levels and 
>> so on, till a max 50 levels (E.g. States in the USA).
>>
>> Any suggestions in this regard will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Harsh Singhal
>> Decision Systems,
>> Mu Sigma, Inc.
>>
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