Yes I think R as a package can really learn from SAS and SPSS in making GUI more user friendly , even at the risk of dumbing down some complexity..
also as a consultant I know that selling software requires a lot of marketing follow ups..which is why R has lagged behind in actual implementation and marketing ( who will go on site at a client and implement)...despite being more robust and of course helping companies save costs in these critical times. If you market R more and even get a 10 % share of the commercial market, imagine how many jobs you save by cutting down software costs of the employers.. Ajay www.decisionstats.com On 1/8/09, Louis Bajuk-Yorgan <lba...@tibco.com> wrote: > > As the product manager for S+, I'd like to comment as well. I think the > burgeoning interest in R demonstrates that there's demand for analytics > to solve real, business-critical problems in a broad spectrum of > companies and roles, and that some of the incumbent analytics offerings, > in particular SAS and SPSS, don't sufficiently meet the growing need for > analytics in many major companies. > > S+ (now TIBCO Spotfire S+) is of course a commercial software package > based on the S language, which was a forerunner of R as mentioned in the > article, and has been widely adopted. It is currently used in a wide > variety of areas, including Life Sciences, Financial Services, and > Utilities, for applications such as speeding the analysis of clinical > trial data, optimizing portfolios, and assessing potential sites for > building wind farms. > > I welcome, respect, and appreciate the vitality, creativity, and sheer > productivity of the R community, and the high quality of statistical > methods the community creates. And, because of the close historical ties > between the two products, it is generally easy to port most R statistics > into the commercial S+ environment, and we have worked to make that > easier in recent releases. > > Once in S+, these analytic methods can be incorporated into intuitive > tools for business decision makers and deployed to automated > environments, using visual workflows, web-based applications (using > standard web services), Spotfire Guided Applications for dynamic visual > analysis, and scalable, event-driven architectures using TIBCO's IT > infrastructure. S+ also provides some unique offerings, such as the > ability to flexibly and efficiently analyze very large data sets. > > In this way, I feel companies can maximize the value of their analytic > investments to make rapid business decisions, whether those analytics > are developed in R or S+. > > Regards, > Lou Bajuk-Yorgan > Sr. Director, Product Management > TIBCO Spotfire Division > lba...@tibco.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] > On Behalf Of Douglas Bates > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:58 PM > To: marc_schwa...@comcast.net > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] R in the NY Times > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Marc Schwartz > <marc_schwa...@comcast.net> wrote: >> on 01/07/2009 08:44 AM Kevin E. Thorpe wrote: >>> Zaslavsky, Alan M. wrote: >>>> This article is accompanied by nice pictures of Robert and Ross. >>>> >>>> Data Analysts Captivated by Power of R >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/business-computing/07pr >>>> ogram.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> January 7, 2009 Data Analysts Captivated by R's Power By ASHLEE >>>> VANCE >>>> >>>> >>>> SAS says it has noticed R's rising popularity at universities, >>>> despite educational discounts on its own software, but it dismisses >>>> the technology as being of interest to a limited set of people >>>> working on very hard tasks. >>>> >>>> "I think it addresses a niche market for high-end data analysts that > >>>> want free, readily available code," said Anne H. Milley, director of > >>>> technology product marketing at SAS. She adds, "We have customers >>>> who build engines for aircraft. I am happy they are not using >>>> freeware when I get on a jet." >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for posting. Does anyone else find the statement by SAS to be > >>> humourous yet arrogant and short-sighted? >>> >>> Kevin > >> It is an ignorant comment by a marketing person who has been spoon fed > >> her lines...it is also a comment being made from a very defensive and >> insecure posture. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > -- Regards, Ajay Ohri http://tinyurl.com/liajayohri ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.