On 21/03/2009, at 3:19 AM, Ravi Varadhan wrote:


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I also tried a number of other things including changing the "family", and parameters in "loess.control", but to no avail. I looked at the Fortran codes from both loess and gam. They are daunting, to say the least. They are dense, and there are absolutely no comments whatsoever. But one thing is clear - they are using different Fortran codes.

Thanks for doing this digging. It would on this basis be not unreasonable
        to expect there to be numerical differences in the result.

So, the best bet might be to get Trevor Hastie or Bill Cleveland to help you out.

But, before that: why is this an issue, Rolf? Is it important that these two results
be identical?

It just makes me nervous when two procedures which I believe to be doing the same thing give answers which are not identical. Such a phenomenon makes me wonder if there is something which I am not understanding, and if thereby my
        lack of understanding might lead to my making serious errors.

A lack of understanding is an all-to-frequent occurrence in my circumstances (i.e. being thick as two short planks) and I therefore need to be constantly
        on my guard against such a lack.

In the current setting I think I will desist from pursuing the issue any further and just assume that different coding accounts for the different results. And
        take a valium.

                cheers,

                        Rolf Turner

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