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From: spencerg <spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com>
To: "Liaw, Andy" <andy_l...@merck.com>
Cc: Rolf Turner <r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz>; FMH <kagba2...@yahoo.com>; 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:08:43 PM
Subject: Re: [R] Derivative of nonparametric curve

    This may be overkill for your application, but you might be interested in 
the "fda" package, for which a new book appeared a couple of months ago:  
"Functional Data Analysis with R and Matlab" (Springer Use R! series, by 
Ramsay, Hooker and Graves;  I'm the third author).  The package includes a 
"scripts" subdirectory with R code to recreate all but one of the 76 figures in 
the book.  [To find this "scripts" directory, use "system.file('scripts', 
package='fda')".] 

    Functional data analysis generalizes spline smoothing in two important 
ways: 

          (1) It supports the use of an arbitrary finite basis set to 
approximate elements of a function space;  spline smoothing uses splines only, 
usually cubic splines.  The first derivative of a cubic spline is piecewise 
quadratic, and the second derivative is piecewise linear.  If you want 
something smoother than linear, you need at least a quartic spline, and Ramsay 
has recommended quintics -- degree 5 polynomials = order 6 spline. 

          (2) It allows the curve to be smoothed using an arbitrary linear 
differential operator, not just the second derivative.  This can be important 
if you have theory saying that the "truth" should follow a particular 
differential equation.  Otherwise, if you want to estimate the second 
derivative, Ramsay has recommended smoothing with the fourth derivative rather 
than the second.  (In any event, smoothing is achieved by penalized least 
squares with the penalty being proportional to the integral of the square of 
the chosen linear differential operator.) 

    To reinforce this second point, chapter 11 of "Functional Data Analysis 
with R and Matlab" describes "functional differential analysis", which will 
estimate non-constant coefficients in a differential equation model. 

    Hope this helps.      Spencer Graves


Liaw, Andy wrote:
> From: Rolf Turner
>  
>> On 8/09/2009, at 9:07 PM, FMH wrote:
>> 
>>    
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for a way on computing the derivative of first and  second 
>>> order of a smoothing curve produced by a nonprametric  regression. For 
>>> instance, if we run the R script below, a smooth  nonparametric regression 
>>> curve is produced.
>>> 
>>> provide.data(trawl)
>>> Zone92  <- (Year == 0 & Zone == 1)
>>> Position <- cbind(Longitude - 143, Latitude)
>>> dimnames(Position)[[2]][1] <- "Longitude - 143"
>>> sm.regression(Longitude, Score1, method = "aicc", col = "red",  model = 
>>> "linear")
>>> 
>>> Could someone please give some hints on the way to find the  derivative on 
>>> the curve at some points ?
>>>      
>> See
>> 
>>     ?smooth.spline
>> and
>>     ?predict.smooth.spline
>>    
> 
> Since sm.regression() (from the sm package, I presume) uses kernel
> methods, a kernel-based estimator of derivatives is available in the
> KernSmooth package.
> 
> Andy
>    
>>     cheers,
>> 
>>         Rolf Turner
>> 
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