Hi there, I have relative abundance data for 13 mammal species that I collected at various sites that ranged in road density. I'm trying to determine the effect of road density on animal abundance across body sizes. For most species, I have data that was collected in one year but for a few species I have two years of complete data, and would like to use both. Since I have count data, I'm trying to use Poisson regression and incorporate random effects for body size using lmer. I would like to run 4 models and use AIC to select the best model amongst: a) fixed effect for road density, 2) randoms intercepts for body size, 3) random slopes for body size, and 4) random slopes and intercepts for body size. Since I have two years of data for some species however, I would like to treat each year separately so I believe I need to account for this by nesting year (as a factor) within body size (also a factor). My first question is whether or not the code below is correct for the models outli! ned above? data= (mixed) fBodySize <- factor(mixed$BodySize) fYear<-factor(mixed$Year) groupedData(ABUNDANCE~RoadDensity | fBodySize/fYear, data = mixed) #random intercept m1<-lmer(ABUNDANCE~RoadDensity +(1|fBodySize/fYear), family=poisson(log), data = mixed) # random slope m2<-lmer(ABUNDANCE~RoadDensity +(-1 + RoadDensity |fBodySize/fYear), family=poisson(log), data = mixed) #random slope and intercept m3<-lmer(ABUNDANCE~RoadDensity +(1+RoadDensity |fBodySize/fYear), family=poisson(log), data = mixed) And secondly, I do have slightly overdispersed data, but since I would like to compare models, I believe using a quasi-Poisson model won't work since it does not provide a likelihood function, therefore I cannot do a model comparison using AIC?? However, a negative binomial may be appropriate but I'm having trouble figuring out the code for the same models above but using the glmmADMB library (which I believe can handle neg. bin family with random effects??). Can help with the code for the same models above but using neg. bin regression? Thanks very much, Bob _________________________________________________________________ [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.