On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:32 PM, FishR wrote:


We are looking the extinction of a species of freshwater fish. The logistic regression was derived by scoring the anecdotal descriptions of the species' former population size (1 for a positive description of the population e.g. abundant, and 0 for a negative description e.g. scarce) and plotting this
against time. Therefore it’s the population size relative to t=0. The
anecdotal evidence in not regular and therefore why I used a derived measure
of the population.

We then have the predictor variables temperature, oxygen and river
modification for some of the 1800-2000 time period. Unfortunately the data is collected in bursts e.g. for the oxygen 1923-1938 and the 1954-1972, so
the missing data will not be random.

If you had large amounts of river-level data that spanned intervals and ended with localized extinction events, I wonder if it might be possible to do interval type "survival analysis"? One of the formulation for coxph is to model a Surv object created with left and right censoring. It "looks" like Surv(time1, time2, event). If you have credible population counts over intervals, perhaps some sort of expansion of those observations could put the data in an acceptable form. (Unfortunately those very large gaps in the record make me a bit dubious about the validity of results from that effort that would generalize across a 200 year span.) Another formulation might be a properly constructed Poisson regression. At least that framework is easily configured to handle grouped data as might be found in surveys.

There are also real statisticians (I'm just an old county doctor) reading this, and with yet a better description of the data resources they might be able to comment on further alternatives. Another forum for such a question might be the geospatial group.

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David Winsemius, MD
Heritage Laboratories
West Hartford, CT

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