lme does not produce standard errors for the variance components like HLM does. It does produce SEs for the fixed effects, however, along with t-statistics and p-values, just like HLM. Use the summary() command to see these. When you do this, you will get the AIC, BIC, and loglik values. Just below this output will be the variance components for the random effects. But, the level 2 variance components are reported as standard deviations and SEs do not accompany these random effects. In lme, the residual is the within-group error, which is the sigma-squared in HLM. In terms of lme, the plot(intervals) can be used to assess variability rather than the chi-square in HLM.
-----Original Message----- From: Andrej Kveder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/25/2003 5:24 PM To: R-Help Cc: Subject: [R] within group variance of the coeficients in LME Dear listers, I can't find the variance or se of the coefficients in a multilevel model using lme. I want to calculate a Chi square test statistics for the variability of the coefficients across levels. I have a simple 2-level problem, where I want to check weather a certain covariate varies across level 2 units. Pinheiro Bates suggest just looking at the intervals or doing a rather conservative ANOVA test in their book. I have also consultet Raudenbush Bryk on the subject and they suggest using a Chi sqare statistics. It is defined as follows: SUM by j( (beta_hat_qj - y_hat_q0 - sum(y_hat_qs*w_sj))^2/V_hat_qqj) beta are the within 2-level coffecients - got them with the coef() y is a fixed effect or grand mean the sum is for accounting of the level 2 predictors, that I don't presently have, but will the problem is V_hat_qqj which are the variances of the coefficients. I can't get to them. Does anybody have an idea how to get to them? I would really appreciate any suggestion. Andrej _________ Andrej Kveder, M.A. researcher Institute of Medical Sciences SRS SASA; Novi trg 2, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia phone: +386 1 47 06 440 fax: +386 1 42 61 493 [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help