Spencer Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bates and Watts (1988) Nonlinear Regression Analysis and Its > Applications (Wiley) explain that parameter effects curvature > seems to be vastly greater than the "intrinsic curvature" of the > nonlinear manifold, onto which a response vector is projected by > nonlinear least square. This is different from maximum > likelihood, but I believe that this principle would still likely > apply. Does this make sense? spencer graves Some :)
> p.s. I don't understand what you are saying about "0.41 3.70 > 1.00" below. You are giving me a set of three numbers when > you are trying to estimate two parameters and getting NAs, > Inf's and NaNs. I don't understand. Are you printing out > "x" when the log(likelihood) is NA, NaN or Inf? If yes, is > one component of "x" <= 0? Eric Rescorla wrote: Doh! Typographical error to R. I had the "hessian=TRUE" clause inside the c(). Doesn't make any difference for the results, though. I'm doing the following: > llfunc <- + function (zzz) { + tmp <- -sum(dweibull(d$Age.Month,shape=exp(zzz[1]),scale=exp(zzz[2]), log=TRUE)) + if(is.infinite(tmp) | is.na(tmp)) { print(zzz);} + tmp + + } > mle <- nlm(llfunc,c(shape=.37,scale=4.0), hessian=TRUE) [1] 0.37 4.00 [1] 0.37 4.00 [1] 0.370001 4.000000 [1] 0.370000 4.000004 [1] 0.3701 4.0000 [1] 0.3700 4.0004 [1] 0.3702 4.0000 [1] 0.3701 4.0004 [1] 0.3700 4.0008 Warning messages: 1: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 2: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 3: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 4: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 5: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 6: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 7: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value 8: NA/Inf replaced by maximum positive value I'm a little vague on how this is supposed to work, but when I just compute -sum(dweibull(d$Age.Month,shape=1.5,scale=40,log=TRUE)) I get "Inf". The problem seems to be that some of the values of d$Age.Month are 0 and since the Weibull always has a value of 0 at 0, the log likelihood comes out insane. (I'm getting 0 values due to quantization error). OTOH when I remove the 0 values it works great, but that seems kind of ad hoc. Is there some standard fix for this? Thanks much, -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rtfm.com/ ______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help