Nope, sorry, I made a mistake - it's Office vX, native for OSX. I've had a look around and found quite a few complaints on the 'net about Word X claiming to be OSX native but rendering the image as a scruffy bitmap, so I guess this is a Word problem. I don't want to invest in the newest version of MS Office, which might do it properly... maybe I'll hang on for the Aqua version of Open Office, so I can expunge MS from my hard drive.

Cheers


Rob



On 22 Jul 2004, at 13:55, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

R's PDF is indeed vector graphics. Given that PDF is supposedly the
native graphics representation on MacOS X, it sounds as if you are not
using MacOS X native applications (and Office 2000 cannot be, given its
date). If you are indeed using classic MacOS applications then the native
graphics format is different and PDF is foreign. Might this be as simple
as using up-to-date MacOS X versions of your other applications?


On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Rob Knell wrote:

Hi there

The default option for saving graphics from R (1.9.1) on my Mac is as a
pdf file. If I open the file in Acrobat reader it looks really good and
crisp, and is obviously saved as vector graphics, since I can zoom in
as much as I like and it continues to look really nice. If I import it
into MS Word (from office 2000), or Textedit, however, it imports it as
a bitmap and unless I save it as a pretty big image and then shrink it
in size by about three times after import it looks blurry and
pixellated. The save it as a really big picture and shrink it option is
bearable, but hardly elegant.


I'm trying to persuade some other people in my department that we
should move to using R as a standard analysis package, and this is
currently one strike against it - it's difficult to export
decent-looking high-res graphics.

Not true: the export _is_ high quality and your subject line is blaming the wrong tool.

If I want to persuade people to use
R, I need to be able to give them an easy way to do this. There are
some solutions like importing the text and then the graphics into
acrobat, or installing ghostscript and trying it with the graphics as
postscript, but obviously people will respond to this with 'why should
I waste time and or money doing this when I can just cut and paste out
of Excel/Statistica/Minitab'. I realise that this is arguably more of a
problem with Word or Textedit, but does anyone know of a good easy
solution to this that I can use as part of my program to evangelise my
colleagues?

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